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dog-on · 09-20-2007, 12:19 AM

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They cast him in the role of the Yom kippur scapegoat in the Jesus/Barrabas incident.

and of course, there are always the early manuscripts of Matthew that list Barabas' first name as Jesus...how comical...

Jesus Barabas = Jesus Son of the Father vs. Jesus the Christ (King of the Jews)

Sorry, but this has to be a Roman joke...

dog-on · 09-20-2007, 03:07 AM

Regarding the strange, new God, maybe this statement from John even refers to him:

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28So Jesus proclaimed,(AO) as he taught in the temple, (AP) "You know me, and you know where I come from? But(AQ) I have not come of my own accord.(AR) He who sent me is true,(AS) and him you do not know.

dog-on · 09-20-2007, 03:12 AM

...and another curious statement, by JC, in the same vain:

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18(A) No one has ever seen God;(B) the only God,[a] who is at the Father’s side,[b](C) he has made him known.

Of course, Adam, Moses, et al... may have begged to differ...

Lugubert · 09-20-2007, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Clouseau

Paul wrote of an event well before there was any temple- the Passover in Egypt, when the blood of a perfect lamb was spread with hyssop branches on the door posts and lintels of the Israelites, who were to stay behind their doors to avoid the visit of the avenging angel.

Marking doors for good luck or for avoiding bad luck is a too common feature in lots of cultures to have any significance. Here's one example.

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The year-old, male lamb, that had been kept as a pet for fourteen days, was slaughtered at twilight.

And there is no connexion with Jesus?

Wasn't he slightly older than one year? Who kept him as a pet? Not even "at twilight" matches the myth.

Clouseau · 09-20-2007, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fortuna

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Paul wrote of an event well before there was any temple- the Passover in Egypt, when the blood of a perfect lamb was spread with hyssop branches on the door posts and lintels of the Israelites, who were to stay behind their doors to avoid the visit of the avenging angel. The year-old, male lamb, that had been kept as a pet for fourteen days, was slaughtered at twilight.

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Well, No. Sure that was what was done for the first passover

There was only one Passover.

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But this is not that to which Paul is referring.

'Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.' 1 Cor 5:7-8

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(not ot mention that makes no sense here, the angel of death was not at the door).

Death's door awaits us all.

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And there is no connexion with Jesus?

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I did not say that. Of course there was.

Of course.

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