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oftenbuzzard · 10-13-2006, 06:57 AM

I like this quote:

An atheist cannot find God for the same reason a burglar can not find a cop.

- buzz

Alethias · 10-13-2006, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by oftenbuzzard

I like this quote:

An atheist cannot find God for the same reason a burglar can not find a cop.

- buzz

Burglers can not find a cop because they don't want to be held responsible for their actions. I can't find god because there is no god to hold me responsible for my actions. I make responsible choices, however, because it makes my life and the lives of those around me better to do so.

Alethias

crazyfingers · 10-13-2006, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by oftenbuzzard

I like this quote:

An atheist cannot find God for the same reason a burglar can not find a cop.

- buzz

Not accurate given that I could introduce you to many cops and ask them to shake your hand. OTOH, I've yet to see any evidence to suggest that a god exists and you are certainly unable to introduce one to me.

Your quote takes as a given that a god exists. That is not a given.

Furthermore, based on the multitude of discussions that I have seen on this discussion board, at least half of the atheists here were at one time strong believers and put a great deal of effort into finding this supposed god.

The bottom line is that that quote plays on multiple misrepresentations. It may feel good to a believer to say it, but it's still a gross misrepresentation of the situation.

Lanakila · 10-13-2006, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by oftenbuzzard

I like this quote:

An atheist cannot find God for the same reason a burglar can not find a cop.

- buzz

Not surprised you like it, but it is rather offensive. Many atheists are deconverts and most criminals in the prisons are Christians.

Lanakila · 10-13-2006, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyfingers

Not accurate given that I could introduce you to many cops and ask them to shake your hand. OTOH, I've yet to see any evidence to suggest that a god exists and you are certainly unable to introduce one to me.

Your quote takes as a given that a god exists. That is not a given.

Furthermore, based on the multitude of discussions that I have seen on this discussion board, at least half of the atheists here were at one time strong believers and put a great deal of effort into finding this supposed god.

The bottom line is that that quote plays on multiple misrepresentations. It may feel good to a believer to say it, but it's still a gross misrepresentation of the situation.

Your reply took a lot more thought, and I like it better than mine.

oftenbuzzard · 10-13-2006, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lanakila

Not surprised you like it, but it is rather offensive. Many atheists are deconverts and most criminals in the prisons are Christians.

Obviously you missed the point of the comparison.

I find the term deconvert rather offensive.

BTW, I mentioned nothing about burglars in PRISON. I agree there are a lot of Christians in prison. Our choir is well received at Angola. Quite a praise gathering. But all of that is beside the point of the quote.

- buzz

Cat59 · 10-13-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by oftenbuzzard

I like this quote:

An atheist cannot find God for the same reason a burglar can not find a cop.
- buzz

I dunno, Carico says atheists can't find God because he won't let them...
So many different versions of the same story.
No wonder people get confused...

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Originally Posted by countrygal

oh off topic again, you know seebs how you made the comment about nursing? i'm not sure i'm a good nurse anymore. i think i've become a jinx. the day before one of my favorite patients passed away, i had her as my patient. i made sure she got a good bath, and had good care. next day, she passes away.

day before yesterday. another patient, me and another cna i'm buddies with had this other lady as a patient. she'd been doing badly for awhile now. ever since i've been there she's been on a feeding tube, oxygen, paralyzed. it's a sad existance she had. well, she had been filling up with fluid for several days now even though she was on a fluid pill. so my friend anad i took some extra care with her that day, suds her up from tope to bottom, lotioned and oiled her all over to try to make her feel better. next day she passed away

In the area I work in now, people hardly ever die, but when they do, I spend so long thinking about what I might have done differently. It sounds as though you don't have to, Kim. Death is an inevitable part of what you do as a nurse, sick people do die and from this it seems you have mastered something vital, that these seemingly little things matter to people who may have little time left.
*hugs*

crazyfingers · 10-13-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by oftenbuzzard

Obviously you missed the point of the comparison.

I doubt very much that anyone here would miss the point, misrepresentation that it is.

seebs · 10-13-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyfingers

I doubt very much that anyone here would miss the point, misrepresentation that it is.

Oh, the point's quite clear. It's just that it's a false conclusion, based on invalid reasoning from false premises.

Which is rather the hat trick of bad arguments, and something of an accomplishment; most of the time, people only get two of the three wrong.

Hydra009 · 10-13-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by oftenbuzzard

I find the term deconvert rather offensive.

That's too bad. :boohoo:

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