steamer

Certain Christians will make the claim that atheists reject god. It isn’t true in the way I think they mean it. I reject the description of god in the bible as being a factual description of any real thing. It isn’t as if I think there is a god which matches the bible’s description and reject that. That is an activity for Christians.

If you ask any Christian to describe his personal god, you will find that the god he describes is not the biblical one. The Christian’s personal god is always a tad better than the biblical god. In short, Christians reject the biblical description of god and thus reject a god in which they supposedly believe in.

Christians almost uniformly reject the god the bible describes; the god they claim to believe in, which I think really is the kind of rejection that Christians try to accuse us of.

No Robots

False Fable

God is the one who rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens. Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. But Lot's wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.

Gen 19:23-26

steamer

Ignoring certain aspects and acts in the supposedly only authoritive description of god is to reject that god.

Draconis

No we cannot reject God because that then assumes that God exists in order to be rejected. What we reject is the concept of God.

burning flames

if there was a god, what would the thoughts be on the principles of rejecting him and having eternal consequences after death? (remembering that death in this case is just the point that god deems your decision to reject or accept him is set in stone)

Mageth

If there was a god, why would or should she care if we "accepted or rejected" her?

The whole notion of the necessity of "accepting" a god is, well, silly.

David B

Not if the god in question is a Jewish zombie who happens to be his own father who can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because Rib Woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat the fruit of a magical tree.

Oh, wait....

David B

peanutaxis

The fact that the Christian tome is so contradictory is unfortunate.


When you suggest that God is a human construction because (OT):

They used the Urim & Thummim. This would be laughed at today.
God requests sacrifices are to be burned and it just happens that other cultures were doing this all around the Israelites.
Many Laws have perfectly sensible outcomes for health and wellbeing.
Leaders were told by God to invade other peoples. But Christians would not accept anyone claiming this today.

The goalposts are moving.
You get the answer "God works differently in different times"

Oh. Whad'you know.


How
****ing
Convenient

Gawen

Well, Jesus...one third of the Triumvirate...is Love. And Jesus loves you SOOOOoooooo much, he has given you ways to achieve everlasting life in Heaven with him, his dad, and his Dad's ghost. These are:
* Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'.

* Sell everything you have and give to the poor.

* Eat Jesus's flesh and blood.

* Change and become like little children.

* Born again of water and spirit.

* Your righteousness must surpass that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law.

* Acknowledge Jesus before men.

* Do not prepare for the future.

* Poor in spirit

* Pure in heart

* Those who are persecuted because of righteousness

* Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you

* Follow Mosaic Law, both the letter and the spirit of it.

* Practice strict nonviolent pacifism.

* Ask for nothing in return.

* Do good works for the poor...stay away from the rich.

* Do not do your 'acts of righteousness' before men.

* Give money in secret, pray in secret, fast in secret

* Do not seek Honour.

* Do not make your piety a means of gaining earthly status

* Leave your houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands for Jesus

* Do not be angry with fellow believers.

* "He [Jesus] must increase but I [believers] must decrease."

Lovely isn't it? Well, not really. I NEVER EVER hear this side of Jesus' love from the Christians around me.