Jeremy_the _Atheist

I voted that Islam is a mixed bag, as I think that most religions are.

As for comparing Christianity to Islam, the middle east in many ways looks just like Europe did during the dark ages. Christianity, for the most part, seems to be growing out of it and I think that Islam will too eventually.

Jayjay

A more accurate analogy would be to criticize a man who tells a story about his friend who was hit by a bus, and by doing that somehow prevented you from being hit by a bus even though you weren't even born when the accident happened.

Plognark

Ah, feel the love and tolerance.

Please stop projecting your imaginary and contradictory issues on this "sow" at least.

I'm stopping now before I do something to get myself smacked down by a mod.

Tuvar Ane Ingolenen

Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Mathew 15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

Romans 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Infidelettante

Yet another instance, Joyfilled in which you have presented misleading assertions regarding scripture.

BTW Tuvar Ane Ingolenen, nice catch and well played. Welcome to IIDB.

JT

Joyfilled

Again, Brave Robin, if you don't think Jesus really died for your sins, why do you mock Him? Do you mock the little green elves that some people say exist?

hinduwoman

Sure. But thanks to the Enlightenment, the church is being slowly defanged. It is still nasty, but it no longer the resources to carry out large scale crusades. In a secular nation the power of the Church decreases.
Unfortunately I don't see that happening in Islamic nations yet, particularly when Islam gets mixed up with nationalism.

hinduwoman

No, what I meant is that once you grant the 'omnipotent God' theory the rest is more coherent.
The formless God does not produce a son. there is no Three in one.

Jeremy_the _Atheist

Originally posted by Joyfilled
Actually, I don't think that anyone here is mocking god or Jesus. They are mocking you and everyone else that believes in the invisible man in the sky.

I'm not going to mock you but I will ask you to consider the reaction of people upon first learning about the discovery of the duck-billed platypus and and how it relates to your reaction toward unbelief in god(s).

When the duck billed platypus was first discovered, many people didn't believe it. Someone took a photograph of it, but many said that the photograph was faked. So someone captured a platypus but some people thought the bill had been glued on and were trying to figure out how to get it off.

This might seem pretty silly but think about it. How do you think you'd react if someone first told you about the platypus? Even though they are real, they still sound like something out of a storybook or fairy-tale.

Now imagine if you said, "I don't believe it. Show me one of these things." How seriously do you think you would take the person reporting the claim to you if they said, "Show it to you? Let me tell you, friend!!! The platypus, although strange, is a noble creature and WILL NOT BE MOCKED!!! You can not mock the platypus!!!" I can imagine you chuckling a little bit at the person after hearing this. Even if they finally showed you a platypus, you would still consider this way of reacting towards disbelief to be rather odd.

When people start with the "God will not be mocked" business, I often want to say, "just show your damn god already! And don't speak if you don't have something interesting to say."

When you tell me about god and I don't believe it, it's not because I'm mocking any god. Instead, I don't believe you because I think that YOU are full of shit.