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Old 03-21-2009, 08:50 AM   #161
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This is more than 15 years old, and may not acknowledge some new discoveries, but it makes a reasonabe overall point:
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Many points are directly contradicted by the wikipage on Hebrew.
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I believe the word certainly would only apply if you put up an earlier record of the day and week usage. :wave:
OK the notion of Sabbath is definitely Jewish, but the Chinese, Japanese and Indians all used seven day weeks I doubt all of them borrowed it from the Jews.
Fine. But you cannot deny where it is first recorded.
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Many points are directly contradicted by the wikipage on Hebrew.
Wiki is a bad source for anything to do with Israel, with numerous legal actions pending. Wiki calls Judea as Palestine - before that term was placed on Judea in 70 CE. And the Islamists deny Judea and its temple ever existed - even as the Arabs were in the front rows destroying that temple. This makes Jesus a Palestinian - even tho he died 40 years before 70 CE! Like the European media - Wiki supports where more business can came from - that's hardly a bona fide medium for history. Try the Britania instead - and pay for your knowledge.
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OK the notion of Sabbath is definitely Jewish, but the Chinese, Japanese and Indians all used seven day weeks I doubt all of them borrowed it from the Jews.
Fine. But you cannot deny where it is first recorded.
Where is it first recorded then? And when?
Sumerians used it when the Hebrews were in Babylon, which is when they first started to use it.
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Many points are directly contradicted by the wikipage on Hebrew.
Wiki is a bad source for anything to do with Israel, with numerous legal actions pending. Wiki calls Judea as Palestine - before that term was placed on Judea in 70 CE.
I fail to see the relevance between the current conflict between Israel and Palestine and the origin of the hebrew language.

In any case, the great thing about wikipedia is that if you have more correct information, you are free to edit the wikipage. The article is not labeled as contested, so unless it has been recently vandalized, there is no reason to assume it is all lies.
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Fine. But you cannot deny where it is first recorded.
Where is it first recorded then? And when?
Sumerians used it when the Hebrews were in Babylon, which is when they first started to use it.

If there is a sumerian document which mandates 1 day of rest from work - then that position wins - this does not reduce in any way the Hebrew, which came separately from babylon. I think Babylon was different from Egypt, whereby there was more freedoms there for the people as opposed Egypt. The Hebrew mandates a specific day of the week as different [santified = separate] from all other days, with regard business and labor, which means one must strive to make it a varied. This is very beneficial for family and health. The Gospels' dismissing this command is totally elligimate - so it becomes surprising it villified the jews who disagreed.

IOW: 'You shall not live by bread alone' [Moses]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven-day_week#Sumerians
Take a look, they clearly celebrated every seventh day as a holy day. It might be where Hebrews got the idea. The word they used for their rest day was nearly the same as "sabbath".
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Wiki is a bad source for anything to do with Israel, with numerous legal actions pending. Wiki calls Judea as Palestine - before that term was placed on Judea in 70 CE.
I fail to see the relevance between the current conflict between Israel and Palestine and the origin of the hebrew language.
Wiki does not.

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In any case, the great thing about wikipedia is that if you have more correct information, you are free to edit the wikipage. The article is not labeled as contested, so unless it has been recently vandalized, there is no reason to assume it is all lies.
It also means anyone, even the unscholarly, can paste and edit, without evidence. In fact, Wiki uses this premise to excuse itself from 1000s of eronous inclusions.
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Well if you think the Sumerians did not have a sabbath, post another source that shows they didn't.
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