sampath

I am a hindu and proud to be one since

1.Hinduism says every human in the world is worshiping the same God and all religions are different paths to reach the same God.(Atheism is also a religion under hinduism.Atheism was called as charvakam,meemamsam etc)

2.Hinduism is monoism.It starts of as polytheism and ends of as monoism.

3.It advocates pure vegetarianism.It starts off by eating meat and leaving it as you age and totally abstaining from eating plants at the final stages of your life.

4.It has the mother of all languages,sanskrit.

5.Salvation is given to all based on the merits of their acts.No religious discrimination is there.There is no eternal hell.There is compulsary salvation to all.If you are good you attain it early,if you do misdeeds it takes a long time.

6.Hinduism is practiced in different forms by many philosphers.Pantheists like spinoza and einstein were hindus without even they knowing it.various religions like kabbalah judaism,sufi islam,taoism all are varities of hinduism.

7.There is no freewill in hinduism.You are not responsible for your acts in hinduism.Nobody can do anything against the will of God.God determines your actions.

8.Arranged marriage which is unique to hinduism guarantees zero divorce rate.

9.Hindu concept of nonviolence inspired gandhi,martin luther Jr and nelson mandela.

So I am proud to call myself as a Hindu.

But To be fair I will also point out its weakness.

caste system and superstitions--which werent given in our holy texts but later introduced by later day hindus are a black mark to our country.

But I am proud to call myself as a Hindu.

LeeBuhrul

That said I would suggest you check to see how Hinduism regards modesty as a personality trait and then reconsider the items i quoted above... you may find them to be rather a weakness than something to be proud of...

PS... the tone of the post is interesting in itself in that i don't believe anyone here would suggest a believer should not be proud of their belief even as we argued and questioned the belief itself.... but that's another point altogether

PPS... what is it about the cows....

hinduwoman

There are many things wrong with your assertions. Unfortunately I am pressed for time right now to give detailed answers.
Mabhaayi! I will return soon. :wave:

sampath

I see nothing as weakness.What you highlighted as weakness are actually strengths of our religion.Also Modesty is a virtue which i profess,yes.But i am not boasting that I am handsome or I have a million$ or something like that.Its like saying "im proud to be an american.My country is the cradle of business". whats wrong in saying so? I actually posted this message since I saw no thread on hinduism in this mecca of atheism.

I am proud of not only me belief but of a civilization that spans thousands of years.Anyway I am not here to spread my belief.I am not here as a missionary.

sampath

hey,dont start a debate on casteism. Im fed up by debating it :huh: For a change debate on the concepts of hinduism.Also dont say "prove that god exists".I am doing that in existence of gods column in a thread titled "is pragmatism a proof of god". :thumbs:

LeeBuhrul

so what are you here for?

predestination and no free will are weaknesses no matter how you paint them... arranged marriages are an atrocious abuse that dehumanizes everyone involved... and guarantees nothing but misery... and you know it...

Nelson Mandela is not hindu... and pacifism is not the sole property of hinduism

and I would call immodest anyone bragging about the US as the cradle of anything, business incluuded because...

sampath

hey comon sanskrit and swasthika are as old as the hills and sea

There is no freewill in hinduism. :wave: If you say :"what to say,what to say" well its god who makes you say that :rolling:

Arranged marriage is no discrimination.I never saw my wife before marriage.Neither did my father,grandfather or anyone in our family.I met her only on the day of marriage.I could never have got somebody better in my life :thumbs:

sampath

simple.To debate in a debate forum.

I did not lose anything by believing in those concepts.philsophically also God can never be called as all knowing if there is free will.

comon.95% of marriages are arranged in India.None is forced into marriage.Its our culture.It works.Visit any indians in USA.There are many.you wont see them dehumanized or anything.What atrocity is there in arranged marriage? my wife willingly married me and me too.We never knew each other before marriage.Nothing wrong happened to us :huh: .My parents too married like that.They are still happy.we celebrated their 30th marriage anniversary last year.

I dint say he was hindu.I said he was Inspired by gandhi's nonviolent struggle. You accept it or not USA has contributed a lot to business

premjan

The freewill issue can be both positive and negative. In good times it is a negative (might prevent personal enterprise), whereas in bad times it can be a positive (fortitude). Again it all depends on how you take it.

Sanskrit is not the mother of all the languages, but it is the first language for which the grammar was clearly spelled out (Panini Ashtadhyayi) so it is linguistically a bit advanced compared to most other tongues. However it is a somewhat artificial language, and was not, I don't think, ever used by everyone or even nearly everyone in its classical form.

Arranged marriage can be a positive or a negative. It depends on you and how it works out. You can be a serial monogamist and convince yourself every time you got the best woman ever, or you can take one woman without looking too closely at her, accept her and live with her. Both have ways of not working out. Again it depends on the will of the individual.

I am pretty sure Mandela would acknowledge some debt to Gandhi on the idea of nonviolence.

LeeBuhrul

I'm american... i know how much the US has contributed... but however much... it is not the cradle of business (cradle=birthplace)

To claim credit for hinduism for Nelson Mandela's pacifism is no different than a xian claiming it... Mandela no doubt drew inspiration from many sources but i don't see how that justifies including him in your "statement of pride"

debate? good that's what this board is great for... but a good debate is best started with an intelectual challenge of some sort... not a "statement of pride"

We're about logic and reason here... not emotion... which tends to quickly degenerate into demagoguery... (if you're wondering what i mean think current US administration)