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Let's try GRD, shall we?
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As I've said before, none of us here care much for what you believe, except as a springboard for discussing why you believe it, whether or not it's true, and why you think we should believe it.
We know what the Bible says. We understand Christian theology (some of us definitely better than you do). We know you think we're going to hell. We're good with that. Threatening us with your fantasies after we're dead is not at all scary or intimidating. Most of us here think Christian beliefs are not only false but ludicrous. They're the fantasies that spring from nothing but Christians' own insecurities, their own fear, their own inadequacies, their own self-loathing, and, in some sad cases, their own evil and sadism. Anyone is welcome to discuss here anything they like, under the authority of reason and sensibility. But preaching is nothing more than asserting the truth of what you say by virtue of nothing but that you yourself say it. We categorically reject preaching. Not only do we reject the authority of anyone to make statements true by virtue of saying them, but we denounce such an attitude. We condemn it. We relentlessly mock and revile this sort of personal authority. I've seen a hundred Christians come here to preach, and each and every one has "shaken the dust off his feet" and left us, most nursing the righteousness that comes only from the perception of oppression. If you're dead-set on being "oppressed" for your "beliefs", well, sigh, I suppose we'll oblige you, as we've done a hundred times before. There's always a few newbies who haven't yet had their licks. But that's all you'll get here. We're persuaded by reason and logic. We're entirely unpersuaded by the commitment you have to your ludicrous fantasies, however sincere and deep that commitment might be. No matter how fiercly you believe, it's still a lie. |
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porto, portare, portavi, portatus porto, portamus portas, portatis portat, portant stem porta-, thus imperative: porta, portate |
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well in the face of such a candid approach I will surely have to let you go.
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~Elsewhere~
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