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Old 09-28-2004, 01:17 AM   #1
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Here is a copy of my post the other week concerning the selling point of religion, I made a point that in my opinion sinning was the "chips" of the fast food industry. I put this feature concerning a McDonalds analogy, what I should have said at the end of this article is, well what do you think, instead this article went to "elsewhere" ~e~. I have now added this remark to the end of the original article. If this goes into ~e~ then I have misunderstood the free speech issue at this site.

Whilst queuing up for my chicken burger and french fries I got going into the culture issue of big mac. The fast food industry is there right in front of your eyes, they use statistical calculated food turn over to manage my chicken burger purchase every 4.4 minuets and incorporate the .3 minuets portion of chips at the same time. If I stood on the high street and approached people about God in the same way as McDonalds I would eventually have some interest from someone. At that point depending what it was I was saying about God I would have a chance to reel them into my way of thinking. The first thing I would do is to prick their conscience about sinning and inform them how we are all sinners and therefore need to be saved. So the saving from sinning part could be the chips as its the most popular part of my product. The next part could by Hell and damnation, this could be the Burger, next the Milkshake; well I would have thought total f******* ignorance would have fitted very well to my fast religion service on the street. The trouble is so many of those who get taken in like Milkshake, me I will keep to chicken burgers, they are not that popular, in fact I prefer KFC to McDonalds anyday!. Well is sinning the chips of religion?
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Did you see your ~E~ thread? There is a subtle hint that you need paragraph breaks. (That's more white space around your text.)
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This will probably get moved to Problems/Complaints, but, well, the post in question was obfuscated, rambling, damn hard to read, and (to me, anyway) didn't really make much sense... :huh:
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What it was meant to state, out of the religious sales pitches used, what is the most popular theme. I think sinning must come out top for reeling in the new customers into religion with going to Hell and damnation coming a close second. But this comes down to ignorance of so many things. So, have I made a point this time, what do you think that gets them into the church in the first place.
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Why do reckon the sinning part strikes home?
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Sinning is a loop argument, catholic children from the age of seven go and confess their sins, but they can do so on the basis that they have not sinned, therefore it must be a sin not to recognise that you have sinned. can you see the loop in this example? If you can work the loop back or forward the brainwashing is a natural progression, eventually the sinning is credible and behold you have another member in the fold.
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Sinning is a loop argument, catholic children from the age of seven go and confess their sins, but they can do so on the basis that they have not sinned, therefore it must be a sin not to recognise that you have sinned. can you see the loop in this example? If you can work the loop back or forward the brainwashing is a natural progression, eventually the sinning is credible and behold you have another member in the fold.
I would think that "sin" is not a good hook with which to catch those unfamiliar with your particular religion.

For example:

In a culture where pork consumption is the norm, claiming that pork is unclean meat, and that by consuming it you are building up a "sin debt" at El Banco del Dios, will just result in the dismissal of the evangelist as a crackpot.

In actual fact I think that the best hook is the "Jesus loves you" line - many people experience emotional low points in their lives, times when they are especially vulnerable to the predatory nature of the xtian meme.

If you feel that no-one loves you, and then someone tells you that the most important being in the Universe loves you, doesn't that give you an ego boost?
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yup if you ask many xstians at what point they came to god, it will be some traumatic experience like bullying or the death of a loved one. 'that was where i carried you' yawn.
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Whenever I get into the raw on the street stuff with a born again, its sinning that comes out first, its a pattern that is repeated many times. Salvation come ito it as a next part in the sales pitch.
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Ok, heres another fast food analogy:

(1)Christianity is like McDonalds

(i)The worlds preachers are represented by the sweaty guy behind the counter who throws you your lunch

(ii)The popes, cardinals, bishops etc of the world are the managers who walk around in blue shirts, telling the sweaty guys to get a move on.

(iii)God the Father is the big mac. Jesus is the coke. The holy spirit is the fries.

(iv) The money you hand over to the sweaty guy represents the time, effort and obediance that you give to the church in return for your satisfying fix.

(2)Islam is like Burger King

Mohamed- peace (and presumably soil) be upon him - is like the guy who saw that Ray Crock had a great thing going when he founded maccy d's and decided to found his own brand. Slightly different but conceptually the same.

(3) New age religions

These religions are like the Subways of the world. They broke from the tired old burger, fries, coke concept... but what they give you is still essentially a fast food fix.

Hows that? :angel:
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