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praying · 02-08-2007, 07:55 AM

now..do I win

praying · 02-08-2007, 07:55 AM

Tonks we split

Centurion · 02-08-2007, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rigorist

It's not a must. The benefit to you is that only publicly identified members of IIDB are protected by the no-flaming rule. So, if you do not publicly reveal your CF ID, people here can say all sorts of nasty things about what you have done at CF and nothing happens.

The ~E~ mods do keep a non-public list with a few people on it simply for our own reference. Being on the non-public list gets you no protection.

No, that would not be entirely true.
IIDB members are allowed to flame other IIDB member if and when the IIDB mod(s) 'feels' like the flame may be true. For example, calling someone a liar, claiming that something over at the other forum is being done by X person that has duel membership, blah, blah, blah.

See, the obvious conflict of interest would be that IIDB having a thread devoted to complaints and gossip about another forum would be severely limited if IIDB were to actually enforce the flame rule equally and as it applies regardless if a claim might be true or not. Once "someone" begins presuming to rule that something is true or false by means of limited access and perspective, it opens the door for injustice.
Common sense actually - so no, revealing one's identity does not afford a "protection" as implied.

ravenscape · 02-08-2007, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brietta

LOL ok I'm hoping that donuts get shared here

Bringing in a nice 60 cup container of coffee for all

Taking note that /me didn't work

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Originally Posted by Brietta

I'm also awaiting authentication somewhere else

Have you sent an email to Libs? Let me know if I can help.

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Originally Posted by Brietta

It took me almost 2 months to post. I'll be happy to be an *unknown* member at CF for now.
I have never had to worry if something was said bad about me, and don't beleive I've ever been flamed on any board for 15 years now

I appreciate though the rule in place for that here

My word is my bond, as Miss Toe can tell you

Spidey sense is tingling! :Cheeky:

Hedonmaster · 02-08-2007, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

No, that would not be entirely true.
IIDB members are allowed to flame other IIDB member if and when the IIDB mod(s) 'feels' like the flame may be true. For example, calling someone a liar, claiming that something over at the other forum is being done by X person that has duel membership, blah, blah, blah.

See, the obvious conflict of interest would be that IIDB having a thread devoted to complaints and gossip about another forum would be severely limited if IIDB were to actually enforce the flame rule equally and as it applies regardless if a claim might be true or not. Once "someone" begins presuming to rule that something is true or false by means of limited access and perspective, it opens the door for injustice.
Common sense actually - so no, revealing one's identity does not afford a "protection" as implied.

What C_C said ^^^

TammyJ · 02-08-2007, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ravenscape

Have you sent an email to Libs? Let me know if I can help.

Spidey sense is tingling! :Cheeky:

Now that my mouth is watering, maybe I should eat breakfast

Yes I sent an email to Libby this morning
I trust your Spidey sense, and love your avatar over there too

Kaonashi · 02-08-2007, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

No, that would not be entirely true.
IIDB members are allowed to flame other IIDB member if and when the IIDB mod(s) 'feels' like the flame may be true. For example, calling someone a liar, claiming that something over at the other forum is being done by X person that has duel membership, blah, blah, blah.

See, the obvious conflict of interest would be that IIDB having a thread devoted to complaints and gossip about another forum would be severely limited if IIDB were to actually enforce the flame rule equally and as it applies regardless if a claim might be true or not. Once "someone" begins presuming to rule that something is true or false by means of limited access and perspective, it opens the door for injustice.
Common sense actually - so no, revealing one's identity does not afford a "protection" as implied.

This is pure morning bullshit.

rigorist · 02-08-2007, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

No, that would not be entirely true.
IIDB members are allowed to flame other IIDB member if and when the IIDB mod(s) 'feels' like the flame may be true. For example, calling someone a liar, claiming that something over at the other forum is being done by X person that has duel membership, blah, blah, blah.

Truth or falsity has nothing to do with our analysis--or at least it shouldn't. We aren't perfect and do not claim to be.

As to "liar", you really could not have picked a worse example. Editing out "liar" (and its derivatives) are one of the few absolute practices we have.

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Originally Posted by Centurion

See, the obvious conflict of interest would be that IIDB having a thread devoted to complaints and gossip about another forum would be severely limited if IIDB were to actually enforce the flame rule equally and as it applies regardless if a claim might be true or not.

I have no idea what this "sentence" means.

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Originally Posted by Centurion

Once "someone" begins presuming to rule that something is true or false by means of limited access and perspective, it opens the door for injustice.

See discussion of truth, supra.

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Originally Posted by Centurion

Common sense actually - so no, revealing one's identity does not afford a "protection" as implied.

I have no idea of what your premises are, so I can't evaluate your conclusion. To paraphrase Wolfgang Pauli: That's not right. That's not even wrong.

ravenscape · 02-08-2007, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

No, that would not be entirely true.
IIDB members are allowed to flame other IIDB member if and when the IIDB mod(s) 'feels' like the flame may be true. For example, calling someone a liar, claiming that something over at the other forum is being done by X person that has duel membership, blah, blah, blah.

See, the obvious conflict of interest would be that IIDB having a thread devoted to complaints and gossip about another forum would be severely limited if IIDB were to actually enforce the flame rule equally and as it applies regardless if a claim might be true or not. Once "someone" begins presuming to rule that something is true or false by means of limited access and perspective, it opens the door for injustice.
Common sense actually - so no, revealing one's identity does not afford a "protection" as implied.

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Originally Posted by Hedonmaster

What C_C said ^^^

If you see what you believe is an IIDB rules violation, please report it. If IIDB staff agree that it is a rules violation, it will be dealt with.

FYI, the ~e~ janitors see a pattern of reports lately that would indicate that some CF staff will dual citizenship think some CF rules should be enforced at IIDB.

That won't happen.

* continues mopping the spruke

Hedonmaster · 02-08-2007, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ravenscape

If you see what you believe is an IIDB rules violation, please report it. If IIDB staff agree that it is a rules violation, it will be dealt with.

FYI, the ~e~ janitors see a pattern of reports lately that would indicate that some CF staff will dual citizenship think some CF rules should be enforced at IIDB.

That won't happen.

* continues mopping the spruke

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