Crazyharp81602

Hi gang! I'm here again.
Looks like Aig is at it again...

Here's another possible ficticous feedback. In this article Aig claims that if you teach evolution to a child, then your building a bomb that will destroy people just like what the Inquistion, Joseph Stalin, and Mao and Pol pot have done. Aig claims that they were all "athiests" while in fact these dictators and terrorists have actually done it all in the name of Christianity and/or any other kind of religion they embraced.Then they stupidly claim that evolution are all the bases for bomb-building which is what we would rather called it all "bullcrap." They compaire this kind of a strawman to another strawman they falsely called Biblical Foundations for a democratic nations which is much more likely the foundations for a nation bent on tyranny, conquest, and oppression upon the weakest and the poorest nations than anything else.

Well, Here's the 'feedback' article.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/Home.../2004/1224.asp

What's your comments and imput on it?

Crazyharp81602

llDayo

I wanted to send something to their feedback but they want too many questions regarding personal stuff, so screw 'em. Also, their feedback box is entirely too small and would just piss me off if I want to add something near the beginning before submission. Interesting that they mention Mao, Pol pot, and Stalin but not Hitler (probably the worst of them all) since he was a Christian (Roman Catholic I think). Heck, I remember seeing a picture before of him being blessed by the Pope! I wonder how many countries out there that aren't first-world or industrialized yet retain laws similar to the Bible's (no stealing, murdering, etc...).

Shpongle

Dumb. People do bad things for all sorts of reasons. Trying to pigeon-hole bad behavior on religion, lack of religion, whatever, is just narrow-minded and ignores the real causes for said bad behavior.

Shpongle

I wonder if YECs like those at AiG would consider Catholics to be Christians. If Sarfati's an indication, then probably not.

Crazyharp81602

You're right Pete! People do bad things for all sorts of reasons. It's no good having one thing be blamed for all of the world's evils while in fact people did it for all sorts of reasons just like you said. The reason I mentioned about the atrocities being commited in the name of religion is because this is all a response to the yecs who constantly blame evolution over all sorts of atrocities like murder, divorce, and suicide just to name a few while in fact this along all the other atrocities have been going on and on before Darwin was ever born.

Thanks for pointing that one out! I'll keep that one in mind.

Crazyharp81602

mountain_hare

It appears to me that religion is only sometimes the cause of such 'evils'. Usually religion is just an excuse to justify your actions. The real driving motives are greed or vengeance.

The soldiers and peasants usually truly believe that God is on their side, but the leaders couldn't give a darn. God is just a concept used to make their subjects dance to their tune.

espritch

If "worst" is measured in body count, then Mao was the worst (by a comfortable margin) with Stalin taking second place and Hitler only coming in third. Of course, Hitler would deserve a special award for being efficient and methodical. Poor Pol Pot hardly makes the cut with a mere million victims. Heck, the Turks managed to kill more than that while slaughtering Armenians at the start of the century.

I would agree that it is much too simple to try to blame such events on religion or lack of it. However, a kind of religious fervor, or something very like it, is often found at the hart of such events. In the movie, "The Killing Fields", there was a scene where people are gathered in a tent and the leaders are asking people to confess their disloyalty to the revolution. I was struck by how much it reminded me of a tent revival; except that in a tent revival, the sinner confesses, all if forgiven, and everyone sings, whereas, in this case, the sinner confesses and is then marched outside and shot.

Communism was a kind of religion founded on a revealed "truth" (Das Capital)that most followers only dimly understood and promising (worker's) paradise to the believers. Heck, the Soviets even preserved the corpse of Lenin as a kind of incorruptible communist Saint.

What is essential is that you have exclusive claim the the "truth". No disagreement with this truth came be tolerated, so burn the books and censor anyone who disagrees. After all, you're view is true and good so anyone who disagrees must, by default, be evil and worthy of death. In short, you should be a fundamentalist, whatever the dogma. If those who disagree also happen to be of a different race or tribe, all the better.

Roland98

This looks more like a GRD thread.

Roland98
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