Jedi Mind Trick

Yes but they also made him eat and provided that he be touched by the conveineint doubter, Thomas. Perhaps the first stories about Jesus lent themselves more to a Gnostic understanding, such as walking through walls and walking on water; a spirit/ghost? So the proto orthodox edited these to make Jesus more physical... I don't know, just a guess.

Amaleq13

I believe they prefer to be called "skin integrity challenged".

LoungeHead

Are you implying water vapor people will be walked on in heaven?

Mageth

I think he could do that before he died.

fta

Yeah, but now he's got those holes in his feet he might sink.

Toto

A quote to remember. :angel:

Toto

But obviously, Jesus is resurrected in some sort of super-material, like ectoplasm. He can turn it into a wounded body FOR HIS OWN PURPOSES - to demonstrate to those clueless disciples that it's really him, although in some senses it isn't. (This doesn't make their observations unreliable for the purposes of proving that he was resurrected, because it's in the service of a higher Truth, don't you see?)

But, of course, that's just part of the theater. After that, and after eating the fish, Jesus shape shifted back into the pure warrior and few up to heaven to sit at the right hand of God until he decides to come back and destroy the earth.

It all makes sense.

jakejonesiv

It makes sense Toto, but it introduces lack of continuity between dead Jesus and resurrected Jesus.

You know, it always bothered me on Star Trek when Captain Kirk and them would get beamed up or down; their bodies would get disintegrated. Sure, molecules on the other side would be reassmbled just like before complete with memories.

But these were just Doplegangers with false memories. Each time, the character that steps into the teleporting is vaporized and dead. And the character that materializes on the other side is newly created clone.

Man, you wouldn't ever get me in one of those teleporters, even if two Jakes popped out the other side.

Does that make Jesus a clone?

Mageth

Since nothing can travel at more than the speed of light (and most things at much less than the speed of light), this may indicate the proximity of Heaven to earth. Since the Bible says that Jesus is "sitting at the right hand of God", and that passage was written only a few decades after Jesus' ascention, then this indicates that Heaven is only a few tens of lightyears from Earth, at most, and probably much closer.

On the other hand, if Heaven is much farther away, say 1000 light-years, this may indicate why Jesus hasn't returned as of yet...he hasn't had time to make the round-trip even at the speed of light, with a bit of a rest period between the inbound and outbound portions added on so he could make good on the "sitting at the right hand" bit.

If Heaven is farther away, maybe at the center of the Milky way or on an arm on the other side of the Milky Way, we have a helluva long time to wait yet. Jesus has barely started on his way to Heaven.

But then, if Heaven is even farther away, outside our galaxy or maybe even outside the universe (the latter of which seems to be the preferred location for God, and so it makes sense that Heaven would be there), then Jesus is still on his way to Heaven, and may never get there, or may not get there until after our own Sun has been long dead and possibly even not until after the universe collapses in on itself (if that ends up happening).

JoeWallack

JW:
Takillya for me and my sonofmen!



Joseph

"We don't need no stinking laws!"

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