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Old 10-08-2004, 01:06 PM   #11
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In the above line we can detect where the woman gives birth to the child that becomes the father of the man she marries (I think).
And interestingly, I find understanding toward domestic violence in your thoughs. Women are accused of nagging, men resist. But then again as you stated in previous posts;woman preceived, knowledge, beauty, food. Does man want simply to raom the desert, free...............

Does he want simply, an enslaved Rebeka, better, a Magdalene, a prostitute. Yep! Bet Jesus deserted her quickly when she became pregnant :rolling:

Susan, just being silly......................

edited to add.....hmm, maybe that's who first tried to corrupt the Magdalene, but the crucifiction shows it didn't work
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The question before us, as I see it, is, Who corrupted the Magdalene, said she was a prostitute? I don't know.

I said "if" the Catholic Crurch, better, religious dogma...............don't know which, but I am inclined to date to say Catholic Church, perhaps as we know it, not as it was designed to be. Why? I'm not so certain Peter is the true pope though I am willing to acknowledge him as the first pope according to tradition.
But the Catholic tradition is based truth and not just some slick sola scriptura message. In fact we do almost everything just opposite to non-Catholic traditions.

Peter is the personification of faith which in Catholicism is inspired and can therefore be trusted and followed blindly. This has to be true if Catholicism is a mystery religion and there is no in between here if salvation is a gift from God that must come like a thief in the night.

He became the true Pope when he dove headfirst into the celestial sea where the fish were large and easy to catch (Jn.21:7).
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Who are all those other Mary's. Mary has not to my knowledge been designated as a mother of Peter (unless you care to correct me). matthew 27:56 refers to the other Mary, which I think is really the same Mary, Virgin. I believe that the reason these other Mary's seem plural is to designate that she had other son's, but she is referred to singularly in this text to lead the reader to the concluson that she is but one Mary, and the same Mary, Virgin. Mary's other son's?..............James and Jose, and Zebedees son's. More?
The celestial sea wherein Peter went fishing was Mary who is the starboard, or right side of our mind. Notice that Peter had exhausted the portside (his conscious mind) and therefore was naked ever since all doubt had been removed from him with Thomas (Jn.20:27-28). Thomas was the twin of Peter because faith cannot be conceived to exist without doubt, nor can doubt be conceived to exist without faith. So, "no doubt" equals "no faith" and therefore the inspired destiny of the Church was based on the wisdom of Mary as brought to us by Peter the first Pope. This insight makes the Church as enigmatic as Mary and therefore the gates of hell shall not prevail against her. Mary's is always in heaven and is temporary set free to guide us through Purgatory only and will [b]never be part of this world." She can be fornicated but that will not get us anywhere near heaven because she will not conceive.

I don't really know James and Jose, and Zebedee's son's.
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I find it interesting that Peter was crucified upside down (tradition). I ask why? Was his message upside down. Do we have two Catholic faiths running side by side? One flat, the other rounded?
That is interesting. Peter was faith and that must be turned upside down before Paradise can be regained. Remember how Judas came to his end? Judas was Judaism and he first hung himself to show the end of religion and elsewhere he spilled his guts to show that faith had been brought to understanding.
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Who did Jesus charge with the care of his mother?
It was John who once prepared the way as Baptist. John is the Christ material Jesus had to incorporate just as Mary was the Elizabeth material the Virgin Mary had to incorporate.

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That Jesus had a dual nature and only his rational nature was crucified.
That John was born from the netherworld from parents who were obviuosly not from the same generation that Jesus was.
That Jesus was the Alpha and the Omega with Omega being the end but not the beginning.

That a scribe who is learned in the reign of God can speak of both the old and the new. Hence, prior to resurrection Jesus was the "New" and John was the "Old" with the temporal life of Jesus being added to the eternal life of John where it becomes God and the continuity of Lord God.

To achieve this Mary theotokos, who is the sum total of the previous generation's essence of God in who's image man was created (for she was taken from man), comes down from heaven (Tree of Life) into the the Tree of Knowledge while it was abandonned by Joseph (who was beyond theology when Christ was born and is therefore absent from the stable in Mt.2:11) to permeate the vacant lower house (the stable) with her essence of God in the image of this man called Joseph (ie. in this case the house was empty and no evil spirits remained to attract more).

To prepare the way for this event also incarnate evils (sins of the clan nation and tribe) must be passified at least until the magi arrive who bring wisdom into the lower house of Joseph before Joseph regained his faculty of reason (beyond theology is beyond reason for the magical 10 days). To appease the generational evils of Joseph John is needed to prepared the way and that is why John is active in and around Jerusalem (conscious mind) until the inspired mind of Jesus takes over to designate it a free will event wherein Jesus must be in charge to die his first death willingly.

Since the essence of God requires the presence of Lord God Joseph becomes John as the fulness of Christ unto whom Jesus was added after ascention. If this doesn't makes just considder that John was the tree of life over which Mary presided.

Magdalene? She is the kind of woman that makes life interesting with never a dull moment for she will always have a carrot up her sleave to lead us on towards greater heigths. She was no prostitude and should be the envy of us all.
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