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Morethancaffine · 03-02-2005, 02:49 PM

Only you can prove that you are god. It is not possible for us to disprove. I've used this example before but I'll pull it out again.

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I say I can fly to Mars by flapping my arms like a bird. Even though you know this to be untrue, you can not disprove that I can do this. You can tell me that it is against all the known laws of nature for me to be able to do so, but I can counter by saying that I have special abilities that allow me to perform this feat. Any objections that you can present, I can shoot down by any claim I choose to make, no matter how absurd those claims might be. The only way that you can acquire proof is for me to actually attempt to fly to Mars by flapping my arms, and failing. The proof for all the claims that I made must come from me, I must either succeed or fail in my attempt, only I can provide the proof, by providing the evidence.

Why is this? It is because science can only prove or disprove based on the evidence provided. Science itself is simply a process of asking questions (hypotheses, theories, propositions, etc.) and then testing those questions based on the evidence. Science can not prove or disprove anything if no evidence is presented, because there is nothing to test.

So, provide us some evidence to test and we will see if you are god or not.

BTW, if you are god, I want a pony.

MollyMac · 03-02-2005, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Spherical Time

I think he meant when you die he'll send you straight to hell.

Whoa, I must be a prophet, I interpret the words of God for the puny mortals!

Well, considering He's God, He sure is crap at expressing Himself.

Mageth · 03-02-2005, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MollyMac

Well, considering He's God, He sure is crap at expressing Himself.

Sounds familiar...maybe he really is God.

THX1138 · 03-02-2005, 02:53 PM

Before. my life was meaningless, so pointless! I didn't see any reason to go on living until the voice of the Almighty Anvils Hammer spoke to me on IIDB. Scales fell from my eyes & lo! I could see!! How could I be so foolish not to realize The Truth (tm)!

Now I shall spread the word to all lands & all creatures that I have found It (tm), the glory of Anvils Hammer. Those who do not heed this gospel I preach shall be deemed Evil Idolaters (tm) & heathens worthy to be put to death by the sword, I mean, um, the hammer!

I pray to you now O holy Anvils Hammer, that you give me the strength to glorify you in the great task that lies ahead of me, writing treatises, tracts, & a big ass Summa, singing hymns in praise of your name! Glory to Anvils Hammer in the highest! Ay-men!

Now-- where's my torch? :devil1:

J

THX1138 · 03-02-2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MollyMac

Well, considering He's God, He sure is crap at expressing Himself.

Aren't they all?

J

Integra96 · 03-02-2005, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MollyMac

Well, considering He's God, He sure is crap at expressing Himself.

But he's better at it than the other supposed skygod thing. You know, I think we've got more evidence that anvils hammer is god than we've got for any other god. Well, assuming you don't count the grilled cheese mary incident.

Gawen · 03-02-2005, 03:00 PM

I hate to say it, but unless this thread turns a bit more serious, it'll be moving soon.

In this case....I am God...*grinnin*

Agnostic Theist · 03-02-2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by anvils hammer

good news Christians, you were right all along, there is a single Chrsitian God.
I am that God.

Xians, unless you can proove that i am not your god, you are duty bound to obey my instructions, however, i will give you a few days to proove i am not your god before posting any commands. after all im omnibenovalent.

seriously people, i am God unless you can proove other wise.
anyone who posts petty arguments like "god would spell better" will be sent stright to hell! :devil1:

atheists, you are welcome to try and prove that i do not exist, but i think it will be more amusing if you let theists try to proove that I am not God.

If you're God then I'm the guy who'll go to hell for kicking God's arse :devil1:

THX1138 · 03-02-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Agnostic Beast

If you're God then I'm the guy who'll go to hell for kicking God's arse :devil1:

Blasphemer!! Blasphemer!! To the iron maiden!!!! Off you go!!

Gawd told me to be an asshole. :angel:

J

Agnostic Theist · 03-02-2005, 03:20 PM

Oh this is meant to be a serious thread?

Sorry, the whole conceited atheist beating a false dichotomy suggested to me otherwise.

The burden of proof issue isn't a case of 'Disprove God or you have to be a theist' or even 'Prove God or you're wrong to believe in Him'. I know a lot of people say it's like that, but it really isn't.

What's wrong with good old fashioned weak agnosticism? You're an atheist? Fine, it's not like there's evidence up there that you'd have to be blind not to see *He says reaching for a baseball bat as the fundies prepare to comment 'Only the blind can't see He's up there'*

Likewise, you're a theist? Nice one, good look to you. Little tip for any boys you might have - don't let them join a Catholic choir, it's a bugger of an experience :devil3: .

It's all a matter of 'I don't have to change my mind. I'll remain as I am'

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THX1138 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Lousyana (but I'd rather be in New Zealand!) Posts: 944	My testimonial... Before. my life was meaningless, so pointless! I didn't see any reason to go on living until the voice of the Almighty Anvils Hammer spoke to me on IIDB. Scales fell from my eyes & lo! I could see!! How could I be so foolish not to realize The Truth (tm)! Now I shall spread the word to all lands & all creatures that I have found It (tm), the glory of Anvils Hammer. Those who do not heed this gospel I preach shall be deemed Evil Idolaters (tm) & heathens worthy to be put to death by the sword, I mean, um, the hammer! I pray to you now O holy Anvils Hammer, that you give me the strength to glorify you in the great task that lies ahead of me, writing treatises, tracts, & a big ass Summa, singing hymns in praise of your name! Glory to Anvils Hammer in the highest! Ay-men! Now-- where's my torch? :devil1: J

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Gawen Contributor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cylon Occupied Texas, but a Michigander @ heart Posts: 10,326	Mod Hat I hate to say it, but unless this thread turns a bit more serious, it'll be moving soon. In this case....I am God...grinnin

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Agnostic Theist Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Posts: 4,822	Oh this is meant to be a serious thread? Sorry, the whole conceited atheist beating a false dichotomy suggested to me otherwise. The burden of proof issue isn't a case of 'Disprove God or you have to be a theist' or even 'Prove God or you're wrong to believe in Him'. I know a lot of people say it's like that, but it really isn't. What's wrong with good old fashioned weak agnosticism? You're an atheist? Fine, it's not like there's evidence up there that you'd have to be blind not to see He says reaching for a baseball bat as the fundies prepare to comment 'Only the blind can't see He's up there' Likewise, you're a theist? Nice one, good look to you. Little tip for any boys you might have - don't let them join a Catholic choir, it's a bugger of an experience :devil3: . It's all a matter of 'I don't have to change my mind. I'll remain as I am'

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