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Hedshaker · 12-07-2004, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Salieri

Atheists claim that religion has caused most of the wars in the world. And even though wars are caused by hatred, there is some truth to this. No one has had the impact on the world that Jesus Christ has. That's pretty good for an imaginary being! Jesus said that the world will hate him because he testifies that what it does is evil. And that's it in a nutshell. That's why people either love him or hate him! He said he would bring a sword and that's exactly what he did! The human being cannot stand to hear that he is not wonderful, good, loving, intelligent, etc. He would rather believe the illusion that his sin is constructive so he can keep doing it. Many people would rather die than to admit they sin and many would also kill anyone who says they do sin. That's why jesus was killed. that is also why anyone who believes in Jesus will also be persecuted. it's called conviction. If Jesus were not telling the truth, then why didn't the world dismiss him as a lunatic? Everyday, people say they are god and everyday, those people are dismissed as crazy. Few people, if any, argue with them. The very fact that people argue against Christ, ALONE, shows that he has power! Most people dismiss the Ku Klux Klan as off the wall because most peple know they're off the wall. But ALL atheists argue against Christ! Again, the reaction of atheists is the best evidence that jesus is telling the truth.

The counter argument to the above is as follows:

Take one egg an boil for approx 3 minutes, longer for large eggs.

Geddit? No?

Well you never address counter arguments anyway. Your posts are a joke and cannot be taken seriously.

Geddit now?

Orbit

post tenebras lux · 12-07-2004, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

Thus speaketh a true prophet!

When the prediction comes true, is this evidence that Weltall is a true prophet and his God (none) exist?

All bow to the non-existant true God and his true prophet Weltall! :notworthy

or not

Alf

No Alf!! You're God. Don't be embarrassed just because Salieri has figured out your little secret. Here is his post where he outs you, from Argument for the Existence of God:

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Originally Posted by Salieri

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Originally Posted by Alf

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I feel so sorry for you. You think that just because you say something then that makes it the truth. How have you shown the world that you have the answers to the secrets of the universe? Oh I know you think you have that power, but you really don't fool anyone except others who also look to you as God. I truly don't believe you'll have the impact on the world that Jesus Christ did, even though I know you'd like to think you do.

Or is Weltall your chosen Prophet (i.e. he's the one who'll beat up your unbelievers for you)?

By his use of wording ('who also', also to who else, Salieri?) I would like to suggest that Salieri looks to you as God.

What's your tithe rate, is it the usual 10%? And can I get a discount if I'm a hypocritical bigot?

Luxie

Jedi Mind Trick · 12-07-2004, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Salieri

No one has had the impact on the world that Jesus Christ has.

I would say that our ancestors who began to make tools, started agriculture and writing had a pretty big impact on the world.

Gosh, and what about all those people that had an impact upon Jesus? If he even existed that is.
They may include great men Like.
(Note: A few of these may be mythical too)
Krishna
Hammurabi
Zarathustra
Akhenaton
Moses
Buddha
Socrates
Plato
Antisthenes
Aristotle
Alexander the Great
Ptolemy
Octavian "Augustus" Caesar
Rabbi Hillel
Rabbi Shammai

TollHouse · 12-07-2004, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Salieri

That's why people either love him or hate him!

It depends on which version of Jesus you're selling, but I'm pretty much non-committal.

Had only Oprah been around 2000 years ago.

TollHouse · 12-07-2004, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Salieri

That's why jesus was killed.

Jesus was killed by religious fundamentalists.

You can draw your own conclusions.

TollHouse · 12-07-2004, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Salieri

If Jesus were not telling the truth, then why didn't the world dismiss him as a lunatic?

He was dismissed and murdered.

Is Superman telling the truth? Or is he lying?

If you had the balls to answer any questions you might find yourself in a better position in these debates. Right now you just seem like a crazy fundy. The same crazy fundies that murdered your precious Jesus.

Spenser · 12-07-2004, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Salieri

If Jesus were not telling the truth, then why didn't the world dismiss him as a lunatic?

Many at the time probably did, just as we do when nut cases on the street rant about the end of the world...

PoodleLovinPessimist · 12-07-2004, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Salieri

No one has had the impact on the world that Jesus Christ has.

How much of an imact could he have had? I mean, he couldn't weigh more than about 200 kg, even if he was a real porker. Even at 15,000 km/h, I don't think he'd make it through the atmosphere to have any impact at all, much less one as impressive as the Barringer Meteor Crater in Arizona.

gregor · 12-07-2004, 02:27 PM

I flew over the crater last week on the way to Vegas. Even from 35,000 feet it was awsome.

Gawen · 12-07-2004, 04:40 PM

The near future has come. A self-fulfilling prophecy is about to occur.

Behold my children...

The Land Of E.

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