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Biblo · 08-21-2009, 02:40 PM

Paul talked with Jesus. He saw him.

Kapyong · 08-21-2009, 02:40 PM

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Cephas is never thought of as other than Peter. There are not a second set of pillars. Cephas was one of the original 12.

Wrong.
You were SHOWN the evidence for this.
You ignored it and kept right on preaching.

Please stop preaching here.

K.

Biblo · 08-21-2009, 02:41 PM

I am sure you will come up with some reason why its my fault.

Biblo · 08-21-2009, 02:42 PM

How can I discuss without being accused of preaching?

Biblo · 08-21-2009, 02:42 PM

When Jesus was accused he eventually said nothing, because they were animals towards him.

Kapyong · 08-21-2009, 02:42 PM

Gday,

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Originally Posted by Biblo

Yes Polycarp said he knew John.

No he didn't.
You keep saying FALSE statements without evidence.
No-one believes a word you say.
Please stop preaching.

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Clement of Rome Peter. It's all documented.

False. Again.
You keep saying FALSE statements without evidence.
No-one believes a word you say.
Please stop preaching.

K.

Biblo · 08-21-2009, 02:43 PM

For me if you can't find a naturalistic explanation to account for the resurrection data, I believe you are going to Hell according to the Bible.

bacht · 08-21-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Biblo

So it all comes down the resurrection. If you can't find a naturalistic theory that fits the data, then you know Jesus is God.

Biblo can you even imagine a world without supernaturalism?
Why should we debate you if you can't see the world as we (skeptics) do, as energy and matter that follow predictable rules?
What if there is no afterlife?
It's impossible to prove either way, but the example from nature is clear: everything that lives eventually dies, end of story.
Are humans the exception to this seemingly universal pattern? What's so special about us? (answer with your own words please, not scripture)

Kapyong · 08-21-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Biblo

Paul's not writing in 3rd person, nor Luke, Peter, James, Jude or John in their epistles.

Paul does not claim to have met a historical Jesus.

G.Luke does not claim to have met a historical Jesus.

2 Peter makes such a claim, but is a forgery.

James does not claim to have met a historical Jesus.

Jude does not claim to have met a historical Jesus.

John does not claim to have met a historical Jesus.

So, WHO do you think claimed to have met Jesus?
Hmmm?

K.

Kapyong · 08-21-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Biblo

Paul talked with Jesus. He saw him.

No he didn't.
He had a VISION which OTHER people described in DIFFERENT ways.

You've never actually READ the NT, have you?

K.

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Biblo Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Alberta Posts: 171	Paul talked with Jesus. He saw him.

08-21-2009, 02:41 PM	#73
Biblo Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Alberta Posts: 171	I am sure you will come up with some reason why its my fault.

08-21-2009, 02:42 PM	#74
Biblo Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Alberta Posts: 171	How can I discuss without being accused of preaching?

08-21-2009, 02:43 PM	#77
Biblo Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Alberta Posts: 171	For me if you can't find a naturalistic explanation to account for the resurrection data, I believe you are going to Hell according to the Bible.

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