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Old 11-12-2008, 01:23 PM   #11
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Is it necessary to think that there really was a comet at all, any more than there was a sword shaped star sitting over a city, or that a cow gave birth to a sheep? If there really was a comet within 5 or so years of the event might not this be more coincidental than a clear referent?

Ancient and medieval historians seemed quite fond of routinely describing comets, earthquakes, miraculous portents of all kinds in relation to any notable death or destruction.

And when Josephus says this particular comet was remarkable for lasting an entire year, are we not entitled to think its provenance was more in rumour and popular suggestion than astronomical fact? Why seek a scientific kernel for this any more than we would seek one for the chariots in the sky or the lamb born of a cow?

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FWIW Suetonius also mentions an ominous comet at this time. Nero
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It chanced that a comet had begun to appear on several successive nights, a thing which is commonly believed to portend the death of great rulers. Worried by this, and learning from the astrologer Balbillus that kings usually averted such omens by the death of some distinguished man, thus turning them from themselves upon the heads of the nobles, he [Nero] resolved on the death of all the eminent men of the State; but the more firmly, and with some semblance of justice, after the discovery of two conspiracies.
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Old 11-12-2008, 02:32 PM   #12
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25 January 66 AD (1P/66 B1, 66)

If, as has been suggested, the reference in the Talmud to "a star which appears once in seventy years that makes the captains of the ships err"[32] (see above) refers to Halley's Comet, it may be a reference to the 66 AD appearance, because this passage is attributed to the Rabbi Yehoshua ben Hananiah. The 66 AD apparition was the only one to occur during ben Hananiah's lifetime.[33]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Halley (oops wiki not trustworthy)

But wasn't my OP about Josephus via Chinese Whispers becoming the gospels?
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