Toto

sotto voce: You obviously have your beliefs, but it would be appreciated if you would make an argument based on facts, with references.

The Israelites did not have a concept of democracy - they were a theocracy. Nothing in the Hebrew Scriptures supports democracy as we think of it. The Israelites did not give ideas to the Greeks or the Hindus, and they were never in Egypt, according to archaeologists.

Duvduv

"According to archeologists" who haven't dug deep enough. Based on physical empirical evidence we'll never really know what was going on. That's were reliance on other's teachings comes in. Archeologists are here today and forgotten tomorrow.

Sheshbazzar

The ancient Hebrews had their religions and origins myths just like every other ancient society.
Some myths were 'borrowed' or 'adapted' from their neighbors, and some were exclusive to their own culture.

Judaism, a particular faction and religious organization of the people of Judah to the South, much latter, took over and adapted these ancient Northern Hebrew myths, codifying them into a monotheistic religion and a set of Laws, Statutes, and Ordinances to enforce a legal code, and thereby unite North and South into one people to create 'The Nation of Israel' based upon a highly imaginative fabricated patriarchal religious background 'history' with a fictional Exodus and Moses.
And of course the 'Levitical Priesthood' made up out of the 'priests' of Judah being 'authorized' by these bogus Mosaic writings to run the whole show, and to put anyone to death that did not go along with it.
(christians were latter to use a similar method to form 'The Nation of Christians' _ karma sometimes sucks. :devil1

Anyhow, despite the spin put on it by the Jewish TANAKA compilers and writers, there was considerable and long term resistance by the Northern Hebrew peoples to this Southern, Judean imposition of a self-serving 'government by fraud' upon their actual ancient beliefs and traditions.
Many Hebrews gave their lives in defending their culture against the Judean takeover.

Eventually however Judaism prevailed, and absorbed most of the remnants of the Hebrew peoples to the point that the distinction between being a Hebrew and being a Jew or an Israeli became lost to most people, both within and outside of region.

ששבצר העברי

sotto voce

There is no such thing, short of deity taking personal bodily control.

Israel was a theocratic democracy, or, perhaps better, a democratic theocracy. In theory. It had no monarch, no oligarchy, no political priesthood, no rabbis, no economic elite. Perfection. In theory. The divine ideal, let down by human fear, jealousy and greed.

Israel's democracy pre-dated Greek democracy, and educated Greeks could hardly have been unaware of the existence of pre-monarchy Israel.

And, of course, pre-monarchy Israel was template for the church, that was wiped out by various determined factions that could not cope with the concept of democracy.

We know this how?

Well, what do archaeologists know. They change their ideas faster than physicists. But I didn't say that Israelites were in Egypt. Egypt could have been troubled by doubts about polytheism merely by the proximity of Israel.

Toto

There are no gods or deities, but a theocracy is generally defined as a government run by the putative representatives of god(s)

This is a fantasy. If you are going to post things like this, you need to provide at least a little bit of support.

Another fantasy.

Your support for this assertion?


By being it its force field?

Seriously, where are you getting this?

sotto voce

Can we see the first ever proof of this?

That depends who is doing the defining.

Prove it.

Prove it.

Which one?

Toto

Mirriam Webster

government of a state by immediate divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided

Since you are making the assertions about Israelite's originality, you need to support your assertions.

sotto voce

Argumentum ad populum is no argument.

DCHindley

Vot Iss!!

As for Torah, Hans unt Fritz say:



DCH