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Old 07-29-2006, 09:19 AM   #571
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It can be difficult, but so what? As others have pointed out in this thread, there are numerous examples of writings that are almost universally conceded to be a mix of fact and fiction. The notion that any document must be seen as entirely one or entirely the other is simply absurd. And what's more, nobody to my knowledge has ever urged its application to any writing other than the Bible.
Doug, can you point out anything about the birth, life and death of Jesus Christ that is not false, as written in the NT? Please show me!

If a book is written as fiction, there is a disclaimer which states, 'The characters and events in this book are fictitious. Any similarity to known persons, living or dead, is coincidental and not intended by the author..

After having read and studied the Christian Bible, the above disclaimer has been omitted and should be immediately inserted.

If the unknown authors of the Gospels cannot, with the help of eyewitnesses, record with any accuracy, the birth, life and death of Jesus Christ, it is incumbent of me to sate, in reference to the NT, The characters and events in this book are fictitious. Any similarity to known persons, living or dead, was not coincidental and was intended by the authors[/QUOTE]
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aa5874, are you going to do anything more than repeat the "False in Part, False in All" canard?
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aa5874, are you going to do anything more than repeat the "False in Part, False in All" canard?
Can you point out to me anything about the birth, life and death of Jesus Christ that is not false, as written in the NT?
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Can you point out to me anything about the birth, life and death of Jesus Christ that is not false, as written in the NT?
Jesus hung from a cross.
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Jesus hung from a cross.
Which one? Matthew's Jesus Christ or Luke's Jesus Christ.
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Which one? Matthew's Jesus Christ or Luke's Jesus Christ.
Do you also disbelieve in other figures from antiquity whose only evidence consist of written documents?
Perhaps Socrates is a fairy tale.
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Do you also disbelieve in other figures from antiquity whose only evidence consist of written documents?
Perhaps Socrates is a fairy tale.
I ask again, which Jesus Christ was crucified, the one described by Matthew or Luke? That is a simple question. We will have a lot of time to deal with Socrates, later.
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I ask again, which Jesus Christ was crucified, the one described by Matthew or Luke? That is a simple question. We will have a lot of time to deal with Socrates, later.
They are describing the same person
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Seutonius in the Twelve Caesars says divine forms set fire to the body of Julius Caesar.

Josephus has miraculous claims in it. Tacitus has miracles for Vespasian. Your gonna be throwing out a lot of ancient documents if your saying its fiction if it has fictional sounding elements.
Lol, funny post...

Take a look at the bold text. That my friends, is more christian fiction. Anyone can claim anything wihtout it necessarily beeing true. Without anything else than claims and stories about miracles, it is just fiction as the bible is.
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Doug, can you point out anything about the birth, life and death of Jesus Christ that is not false, as written in the NT?
I responded to your initial challenge, and now you're moving the goal posts while ignoring my response. I don't have time deal with your crap any longer.
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