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View Poll Results: Was there a "historical Jesus," as you define that phrase?
Yes, and I am a Christian. 15 8.33%
Yes, and I am not a Christian. 38 21.11%
No. 40 22.22%
I think the question is probably undecidable. 52 28.89%
I am looking for more information and argumentation. 35 19.44%
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Old 09-07-2003, 07:43 AM   #81
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Default Re: stories of Jesus

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many many of the mythological stories of Jesus actually originate from the prechristian religion called Mithraism.
Unless, of course, they didn't. See, for example Misconceptions about Mithraism.
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Old 09-07-2003, 01:55 PM   #82
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Damn! I always do this when I am away from my sources!

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. . . including St. Patrick
I finished a book on early Irish history--scholarly . . . not "The Irish Saved the Klingons" crap! It was a bit painful--Sewtus Ma'Gwanthra was born by. . . . However, it did discuss the "mess" that is St. Patrick and I think it is an interesting paradigm.

According to the source--which I will come back and reference properly--there was a "Patrick" who left a diary with very little details. HOWEVER most of the "Saintly" things attributed to him were either done by other individuals--such as bringing Christianity to Ireland--or are well-known myths. Indeed, the historical Patrick serves as a great example of a "founding figure" in that people could subsequently attach whatever they want to him. It is the lack of verifiable historical data that allows this mythmaking.

--J.D.
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Old 09-08-2003, 01:43 PM   #83
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Default Historical Yeshu

From my studies I suspect that the Jesus character was developed from a compilation of stories about several different different guys.

The legend of Robin Hood was developed by combining the stories of several different outlaws and anti-establishment persons with some fictional characters such as Frier Tuck and Maid Marion added later.

I suspect that the story of Jesus was developed the same way.

However, that choice was not available for the poll.
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