dr lazer blast

I also love baseless assertions and assumptions as well dues, because in the realm of logic they just aren't applicable.

Deus Ex

Here is another great paper on the death of Judas by Stephen Elliott.

http://home.austin.rr.com/selliott4/papers/judas.html

An excerpt:

This is the most obvious contradiction. In Matthew Judas hung himself, but in Acts he fell headlong and his bowels gushed out. Attempts to reconcile this contradiction, such as this one typically assume that both things happened: Judas hung himself, the rope broke, and Judas fell headlong with his bowels gushing out on impact. Also, there is the assumption that Matthew was concerned with the original cause of death whereas Acts was concerned with the ultimate cause of death.

First, it should be noted that Judas fell headlong. So, an explanation is needed as to why Judas' body rotated 180 degrees upon the rope breaking. Judas could have hung himself from a tree branch that protruded over a cliff in order to all the fall sufficient distance so that his body could flip, but that seems odd as it would not have contributed to the hanging unless Judas meant for the rope to break. In fact it would have made it needlessly difficult as Judas would have had to climb out onto the protruding branch. It could be that as Judas fell he crashed into something, such as another tree branch, that caused his body to flip. This is possible, but it would make more sense for Judas to simply choose the lowest branch that he could find that was sufficiently high. A branch with a branch underneath it would have only gotten in the way.

dr lazer blast

awww too bad dues. Looks like that person that wrote that paper didn't bother to look up the definition of headlong

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/headlong

looks like headlong can mean 'without delay' or 'without deliberation' or 'undertaken quickly and suddenly'

Sorry but it seems you and the author are irrevocably wrong and ignorant in the definition of headlong, just another example of atheists holding a different definition then the rest of the planet.

Deus Ex

Read the rest of Stephen's paper. Also FWIW I am not an atheist.

Deus Ex

Let's look at the first definition you have provided for us:

with the head foremost; headfirst: to plunge headlong into the water.

Thank you for providing that.

bekaybe

Hey, Doc, pay special attention to your prefered definition, at 3 "A statement or proposition that contradicts or denies another or itself and is logically incongruous...



JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.


Please explain how I can be one with my father, but my father also be greater than I? Thanks in advance.

dr lazer blast

I find your methods humerous dues. Here you present me with contradictions that under no definition in any dictionary is a contradiction. When I explain these 'contradictions' you answer with a baseless assertion mixed with frustration and other forms of illogical reasoning. Your whole 'contradiction' argument was shut down and now you attempt to discredit things in a different way, you have tried using quote that was based upon a baseless assertion and an assumption, that was shot down, and finally you tried using a excerpt from a book where it is plainly obvious the author didn't bother to do a shred of research on the subject, which was in turn shot down. Then you respond simply with 'read rest of the paper I am not an atheist'. Once again dues, you have showed me that you will do anything and go through any lengths to find SOME WAY to discredit the bible, whether it be by altering definitions, posting bogus quotes, or posting a paper where the author failed to do research on the subject, its quite humorous.

dr lazer blast

lets look at the other definitions you've ignored in favor of the first one.

headlong does not always mean head first, there are many different definitions for head long.

WVIncagold

(Leviticus 11:19) - "These, moreover, you shall detest among the birds; they are abhorrent, not to be eaten: the eagle and the vulture and the buzzard, 14and the kite and the falcon in its kind, 15every raven in its kind, 16 and the ostrich and the owl and the sea gull and the hawk in its kind, 17and the little owl and the cormorant and the great owl, 18and the white owl and the pelican and the carrion vulture, 19and the stork, the heron in its kinds, and the hoopoe, and the bat."
Apparently god doesn't know mammals from birds. Clue one has fur the other feathers. My 4 year old neighbor new the difference.

Deus Ex

Sorry but it seems you and the author are irrevocably wrong and ignorant in the definition of headlong, just another example of atheists holding a different definition then the rest of the planet. -DLB


You claim That skeptics hold a different definition from the rest of the planet.

Why should anyone automatically assume definition #2,3,4, or 5 instead of Definition #1?

A literal reading seems obvious to me. BTW do you speak for the rest of the planet?