Doug Shaver

If someone makes a statement, then it is a fact that they made the statement, and that fact may constitute evidence of something.

aa5874

I have already corrected you. I looked in a dictionary to find the meaning of "evidence" and it does not always mean " a set of observed facts".

Doug Shaver

That's nice. Now try learning how to use the information you find there.

Doug Shaver

You have disputed me. It's not the same thing.

aa5874

It is most mind boggling that ApostateAbe appears to want people here to TRUST the NT.

Who would TRUST the NT without any non-apologetic corroboration of antiquity?

If ApostateAbe cannot corroborate any event with Jesus in the NT then it is a WASTE of time asking people here to TRUST what appears to be Myth Fables about a character that was FATHERED by a Ghost, was God and the Creator of heaven and earth.

ApostateAbe himself does NOT trust the authors of the Jesus stories and has INVENTED his OWN Gospel from his OWN imagination.

ApostateAbe has PROVEN without doubt that an Historical Jesus can be INVENTED without an actual human Jesus.

ApostateAbe has PROVEN that An Historical Jesus can be INVENTED from ONLY written sources WITHOUT any non-apologetic corroboration.

Apostateabe's OWN historical Jesus was DERIVED from his OWN Imagination AFTER reading the Myth Fables called Gospels.

It MUST be logical and quite reasonable that the GOSPELS in the Canon could have been DERIVED from the imagination of the Gospel authors AFTER reading Hebrew Scripture and Josephus.

Elena

It is funny to see that you think about Jesus exactly as the xians. This leads to nowhere.

By the way to die on the cross, that is very human.

Elena

You are again demonstrating that you don't understand the message, because you read the gospels in the same way the xians do, that is with the same misunderstanding.

Absence of proof is not proof of absence. You have zero evidence that three Jews were not cruciifed by Pontius Pilatus.

aa5874

All things, if they can be called things, that NEVER did exist have NO proof of existence. And Jesus is one of those things, if he can be called a thing.

Name any thing that is considered non-existing and there will be ZERO proof of its existence.

There is ZERO proof that Jesus did exist as stated in the NT therefore Jesus can be considered a MYTH.

This is so basic.

In "Romulus" written by Plutarch, Romulus and Remus were claimed to be HUMAN brothers Born of the SAME woman but are Considered Myths simply because there is ZERO proof of their existence.

There are hundreds of Myths that have NO proof of existence and NT Jesus is one those Myths.

Elena

You are postulating that something never did exist. Do you see the fallacy? Obviously not. You are showing only prejudice. You have no proof of non existence.

Same here. You are considering something as non-existing, but you have no proof either that it did not happen, did not exist. Show me a proof that three Jews were not crucified by Pontius Pilatus.

As you don't understand the synoptic texts and how the Jews were thinking, you are "reasoning" in the same way as the xians.

Indeed. Illogical thinking is the basic way leading to xians belief or its opposite (which is also a belief). You are believing that Jesus never existed, you are believing that there is no proof of its existence. Quite basic or shall we say quite simplistic.

N/A

Repeating something time and again does not make it true and never will. It does make prejudicial and opinionated comments. That is all.

aa5874

What!!!???

You make me laugh.

You ought to know it is quite unusual to claim things exist without proof unless Jesus was your "umpteenth" cousin or great----great grandfather.

So why do people REPEATEDLY claim that Jesus was only Human with a human father when it is clearly STATED the Jesus was Fathered by a Holy Ghost in gMatthew and gLuke and that he was God and Creator in gJohn?

Why don't you REPEAT what the evidence states?

I will REPEAT Matthew 1.18-20, Luke 1.26-35, Mark 6.49, Mark 9.2, Mark 16.6, Acts 1.9, Galatians 1 and 1 Cor. 15.

Jesus of the NT was TRULY Myth.