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View Poll Results: What is your gut response??
God exists 5 4.67%
God probably exists 0 0%
God possibly exists 4 3.74%
God possibly doesn't exist 1 0.93%
God probably doesn't exist 49 45.79%
God does not exist 48 44.86%
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Old 05-04-2005, 02:07 PM   #1
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I know there is some overlap in the choices, but I am looking for your gut response. The answer that most tickles your fancy.

Sorry, agnostics, there is no 'I don't know' or 'other' because I only want responses from people who harbour an opinion on this matter.

Also, nevermind the Christian god, or the Bible god or whatever. I am talking about a higher power that you would call god be it YHWH or the so-called 'god of the philosophers'.
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Hmmm... I guess I posted this in the wrong section of the forum.
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I know there is some overlap in the choices, but I am looking for your gut response. The answer that most tickles your fancy.

Sorry, agnostics, there is no 'I don't know' or 'other' because I only want responses from people who harbour an opinion on this matter.

Also, nevermind the Christian god, or the Bible god or whatever. I am talking about a higher power that you would call god.
Isn't this kind of a pointless poll? This is an atheist board. What do you think 95% of the responses are gonna be? ( hint, the last 2).
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Isn't this kind of a pointless poll? This is an atheist board. What do you think 95% of the responses are gonna be? ( hint, the last 2).
Hint: it is the answers to the last three with which I am most concerned.

(I am very happy to have gotten a response from FStDT alumnist Magus55 )
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Isn't this kind of a pointless poll? This is an atheist board. What do you think 95% of the responses are gonna be? ( hint, the last 2).
That wasn't a bad guess, actually - currently the last two responses are on 92.3% between them...
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Isn't this kind of a pointless poll? This is an atheist board. What do you think 95% of the responses are gonna be? ( hint, the last 2).
I actually think this poll is a good idea. If it is so pointless, why did you vote in it?
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I actually think this poll is a good idea. If it is so pointless, why did you vote in it?
If the problem with the poll is that the answers given by atheists are too uniform, then surely it would be worse if no theist chose to vote. Right?

This poll overcomes that flaw a lot better than some previous attempts, but Magus still has a point. In the world at large, all answers would be reasonably common. This board doesn't attract atheists who are undecided enough to put down "God possibly does not exist," or theists who would feel comfortable choosing something other than "God exists." That's the point; it's not representative.

But like I said, similar polls have had this problem to a greater degree. This one is better because it contrasts a gut feeling of certainty with that of probable knowledge, because it clarifies that it's not interested in a narrowly defined "Christian God," and because it is public, so that we can see who voted for what.
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My gut is telling me that a good portion of the atheists voting here are nevertheless voting as if it said "the Christian God" rather than any higher power.

Reason I say this is that "any higher power" is far too open ended for us to be sure about its nonexistance. Scientific Method prescribes we assume it isn't there, but that's still far from certainty, so "probably does not" is the only rational choice.

Now, if it were about specific gods, then clearly "absolutely does not and could not even in a possible world because it contradicts in two dozen places in the premise alone" would apply to most of them, but that isn't what this poll is about.
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I don't see that any God exists - Christian or otherwise. If formally pressed I would say "God probably (in fact almost certainly) doesn't exist (but I might allow for some deist sort who created the universe 14 billion years ago and the slipped quietly out the back door saying "What the fuck did I just do" and never to reappear and thus whose existence cannot simply be tested)", but since the poll asked for gut feeling, I went with occams razor and said no.
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