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dr lazer blast · 07-14-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thentian

Nice try, but the word is "bought", not "brought".

ETA: This is also something you need to get right in your Barker Challenge attempt.

replace bought with brought, its still not a contradiction.

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Originally Posted by Reason

But didn't the prophet speak for gawd? And isn't the entire babble the "inspired word of gawd"?

First off all, if you read more than just one line you will see what he was talking about.

Jeremiah 26:13

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13Therefore now amend your ways and your doings, and obey the voice of the LORD your God; and the LORD will repent him of the evil that he hath pronounced against you.

It says the Lord will repent him meaning the Lord will forgive him, it says nothing about God changing His mind.

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Because gawd "repented" of something--which means he had a change of heart/mind about something he did. Ergo, he changed, at least his mind.

What are you talking about? God can say this man is wicked and the person repents and God says 'this man is not wicked' God forgives people all the time, and further more where does it say God does not change his mind? find me that scripture please, you have found me a scriptre that says God does not change his laws, but you have not found me a scripture that says God does not change His mind, it said God repented but for it to be a contradiction you either need show me a scripture of God saying He does not change His Mind.

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Originally Posted by Deus Ex

How did Judas die?

Matt. 27:5
And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.

Acts 1:18
Now this man [Judas] purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.

with the information you have provided me with, this is not a contradiction.

Judas hung himself and he fell from wherever he he had hung himself (a tree probably) and burst asunder in the midst.

thentian · 07-14-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dr lazer blast

replace bought with brought, its still not a contradiction.

The day before the sabbath they prepared the spices.
The day after the sabbath they bought the spices.

Have you ever eaten a hamburger three days before you bought it?

dr lazer blast · 07-14-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thentian

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr lazer blast

replace bought with brought, its still not a contradiction.

The day before the sabbath they prepared the spices.
The day after the sabbath they bought the spices.

Have you ever eaten a hamburger three days before you bought it?

except it doesn't say that.

(Mark 16:1) "When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices to go and anoint Jesus"

(Luke 23:56) "Then they went back and prepared spices and perfumes, and on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment."

'when the sabbath is over' and 'on the sabbath' does not equal'the day before' and 'the day after' it equals 'on the day' and 'the day after' You are irrecovabily wrong.

dr lazer blast · 07-14-2008, 04:10 PM

I would like to point out that no one has gone by the definition of a contradiction.

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/contradiction

1. the act of contradicting; gainsaying or opposition.
2. assertion of the contrary or opposite; denial.
3. a statement or proposition that contradicts or denies another or itself and is logically incongruous.
4. direct opposition between things compared; inconsistency.
5. a contradictory act, fact, etc.

There is no direct opposition nor denial in any of those scriptures, which proves my point that atheists have a different definition of contradiction than the rest of the world.

thentian · 07-14-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dr lazer blast

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Originally Posted by thentian

The day before the sabbath they prepared the spices.
The day after the sabbath they bought the spices.

Have you ever eaten a hamburger three days before you bought it?

except it doesn't say that.

(Mark 16:1) "When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices to go and anoint Jesus"

(Luke 23:56) "Then they went back and prepared spices and perfumes, and on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment."

'when the sabbath is over' and 'on the sabbath' does not equal'the day before' and 'the day after' it equals 'on the day' and 'the day after' You are irrecovabily wrong.

When are they preparing the spices? Before, during, or after the sabbath?

When do they buy the spices? Before, during, or after the sabbath?

ETA:

INCONSISTENCY!

dr lazer blast · 07-14-2008, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by thentian

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Originally Posted by dr lazer blast

except it doesn't say that.

(Mark 16:1) "When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices to go and anoint Jesus"

(Luke 23:56) "Then they went back and prepared spices and perfumes, and on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment."

'when the sabbath is over' and 'on the sabbath' does not equal'the day before' and 'the day after' it equals 'on the day' and 'the day after' You are irrecovabily wrong.

When are they preparing the spices? Before, during, or after the sabbath?

When do they buy the spices? Before, during, or after the sabbath?

they prepared spices on the sabbath and they bought spices after the sabbath.
Did you have a point?

thentian · 07-14-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dr lazer blast

they prepared spices on the sabbath and they bought spices after the sabbath.
Did you have a point?

Ah, I get it. The spices they bought after the sabbath were some other spices.

BTW, they did not prepare any spices ON the sabbath. They were jews. So they prepared spices before the sabbath. (And according to your brill solution, they went and bought some more spices after the sabbath)

dr lazer blast · 07-14-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by thentian

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr lazer blast

they prepared spices on the sabbath and they bought spices after the sabbath.
Did you have a point?

Ah, I get it. The spices they bought after the sabbath were some other spices.

BTW, they did not prepare any spices ON the sabbath. They were jews. So they prepared spices before the sabbath. (And according to your brill solution, they went and bought some more spices after the sabbath)

Yay you get it *hugs thenetian*

thentian · 07-14-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dr lazer blast

Yay you get it *hugs thenetian*

Aw! :blush:

But before I leave you to consider some of the other posts, I'll just mention that I expect the explanation you just gave to be in your BarkerChallenge narrative.

And re the dictionary quote you made earlier I want to bold out just one word:

4. direct opposition between things compared; inconsistency.

Deus Ex · 07-14-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dr lazer blast

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Originally Posted by Deus Ex

How did Judas die?

Matt. 27:5
And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.

Acts 1:18
Now this man [Judas] purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.

with the information you have provided me with, this is not a contradiction.

Judas hung himself and he fell from wherever he he had hung himself (a tree probably) and burst asunder in the midst.

Read more carefully. In the first account Judas threw the money down in the temple, and went and hanged himself. In Acts, Judas purchased a field with his blood money. Which is it?:huh:

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