Originally Posted by Eldarion Lathria

No I was not there two thousand years ago. And ancient Israel was a patriarchal society in which women were subordinate. But the paterfamilias was master in his own house, which meant guests did not criticize the domestic arrangements. It was simply part of being the paterfamilias that you did not allow that.

Modern Beduin manners, and I have been the guest of Beduins, are similar, but not exactly like the manners of two thousand years ago. I was told, before entering the Beduin's home, not to criticize or find fault with anything therein.

And gentlemen of the type I mentioned did exist in Rome. See the works of Juvenal, Cicero, and others.

Eldarion Lathria

Originally Posted by Zeichman

Please actually show examples rather than shifting the burden of proof. Are any of them from a similar socio-economic background, additionally?