Jeffrey Gibson

Where does Tertullian say that Marcion erased this from Luke?

Jeffrey

Jeffrey Gibson

Where within this passage does Tertulliam claim that in these passages (or elsewhere) Jesus was claiming to be god, let alone the god who gave the instructions (not commandments) about what to do to inherit eternal life?

Sorry, but I cannot help but feel that you are doing a Pete and mis/reading into the text you cite what is not there in order to support an idiosyncratic thesis.

Jeffrey

Jeffrey Gibson

Adv what???

Jeffrey

Jeffrey Gibson

I just looked at this passage in Adv Marc. --which is entitled "Marcion Rejected the Preceding Portion of St. Luke's Gospel. Therefore This Review Opens with an Examination of the Case of the Evil Spirit in the Synagogue of Capernaum. He Whom the Demon Acknowledged Was the Creator's Christ" -- and what Tertullian says that Marcion erased is not Matt 5:17 (which, BTW, is not a passage), but Luke's story of Jesus entering a synagogue at Capernaum and healing a demoniac (Lk. 4:31-37).

I wonder once again, Stephan, whether you and Pete are not cut from the same cloth when it comes to ignoring the context of the material you cite to support your theses.

Jeffrey

stephan huller

yes me and Pete are cut from the same cloth like you and Oscar the grouch are.

basically then i can assume that anything i say is wrong even if i cite other people because its me saying it. talk about subjective reasoning skills

stephan huller

i am dowtowm working on this phone. it's good to see that the great Jeffrey can look at a passage in Adv Marc and overturn everything ever written on the subject with the wave of his magic wand.

stephan huller

William's worked for five years on his paper but proved to be another Pete with the wave of Jeffrey's magic wand

stephan huller

Tertullian doesn't reference "praeceptum" in the context of Jesus being called the "praeceptor." With Jeffrey's magic wand Jesus isn't being called the commander the one who gave commandments. no it just means the teacher who gave teachings. sure it does

stephan huller

Tyson (Marcion and Luke-Acts p 42) must be another Pete too when he writes (citing using my phone)

The most notable illustration is Marcion's alleged omission of*Matt*5:17, a*charge which Tertullian makes three times over. (6) "Marcion's text seems to have*undergone widespread changes after the time of Marcion himself.

I am trying to have a serious discussion but this is becoming hopeless. Back to shopping ...

Jeffrey Gibson

I don't know about anything you say (even assuming that your citations are on point). But it's clear that much of what you've said and claimed in this thread is clearly wrong.

I note too with interest how much you work from a double standard. You feel free to dish it out when you feel others are wrong,

see http://www.freeratio.org/showthread....14#post7445514
http://www.freeratio.org/showthread....50#post7445850

but you can't take it at all -- and typically resort to ad hominem and ad misericordiam arguments -- when someone shows with evidence that you are less informed than you'd like us to believe.

If you have arguments that show my arguments against your claims here are wrong, please produce them. Otherwise it might be wise for you to take your own advice about keeping your hands off the keyboard until you have something substantive (rather than insults) to add to the conversation.

Jeffrey