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Neo-Nietzschean · 08-10-2005, 09:59 AM

Perhaps people have an animosity towards God because He first expressed an animosity towards us. Actually all three of the Abrahamic deities seem to have a hatred of human beings. They look down upon us and try to instill in human beings self-hatred and loathing. Our dislike of them is well deserved. :thumbs:

King Rat · 08-10-2005, 10:02 AM

As a fictional character I don't think he is as interesting as Zeus or Shamash. As a literary device he is kind of ham-fisted and one dimensional compared to other archetypes.

Angrillori · 08-10-2005, 10:02 AM

God doesn't exist, ergo I hate him.

I do however detest the idea of god foisted about by a lot of folks.
You know, the god who exists merely as an excuse for its followers to act arrogantly, try to force their belief system on others, and whine about being persecuted while persecuting the daylights out of anyone different, and the like.

God doesn't bother me, it's many of her followers that scare and disturb me.

I think you'll find this a common enough sentiment amongst many atheists.

Jedi Mind Trick · 08-10-2005, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Xulfer Cirtsag

Who's G-d? Who to hate?

[derail]You know,
I never understood why "G-d" was somehow more pious that "God."

Afraid of taking the name in vain? but, substituting the "o" with an "-" doesn’t really change that. Does it?

[/derail]

Angrillori · 08-10-2005, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TySixtus

The last part is correct, at least for me. I think the idea, the character, of Yahweh is despicable. If he truly did exist, he would be one gigantic asshole. Therefore I hate the idea that he exists, inasmuch as I wouldn't like it one bit if such an egotistical diety really was in charge of it all.

That people want to crash their heads to the cobblestones every time his name is mentioned really doesn't bug me- it's when they want me to do it too that really pisses me off.

But I hate the idea of a god that espouses wholesale murder, the rape of young girls, slavery, homophobia, stoning and war as effective means of rulership and control. That's the kind of shit I hate. If people were out there preaching the word of Zeus, and started killing people over Him?

You betcha. I'd 'hate' him too.

Ty

Hmm, that's what I get for not hitting "submit" before going to a meeting. Ty says everything I want to, just better.

RevDahlia · 08-10-2005, 10:37 AM

What TySixtus said. I don't believe in God, but if he did exist, and if the Abrahamic religions were correct about his character, I wouldn't be too fond of the guy. He seems kinda like the worst boss in history.

Xulfer Cirtsag · 08-10-2005, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Little John

[derail]You know,
I never understood why "G-d" was somehow more pious that "God."

Afraid of taking the name in vain? but, substituting the "o" with an "-" doesn’t really change that. Does it?

[/derail]

It just seems to be another one of those little oddities. I remember last year a board I frequent got the Christian spam posts, complete with a sinner's prayer for people to pray and get saved. Part of the instructions said you had to say it "out loud."

I asked why would an omniscient being need to hear you say it out loud.

Just make sure you say it out loud without the vowels, I guess.

David B · 08-10-2005, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CowboyHeretic

Some atheists who post here go beyond the denial of G-d and appear to actually hate G-d or the idea of G-d. I feel quite a bit of hatred being expressed in some people's postings - mainly towards christians. There seems to be more tolerence for any other expressed system over christianity. What gives? :huh:

Just a bit to add to the answers you've already been given, with which I broadly agree.

I don't hate any gods, since they are nonexistent.

I don't hate individual followers of religion, though often I hate what some of them do in the name of religion.

It is possible to argue that good things that have sometimes come out of religion. There we'd have to look at individual cases, but if a potential murderer is deterred form murder by religion, that can't be bad, and if someone takes comfort in religion when they are dying - well one can only feel sorry for anyone in that position.

But I do hate much of what has been done in the name of religion - and expecially the three middle eastern religions.

And it bugs me when people are brought up to believe superstitious, paranormal nonsense, because In my personal capacity as a human being who makes value judgements, I value truth.

I see religion, generally, as a very bad thing, though some religions, and some interpretations of religion, are more pernicious than others.

David B

steamer · 08-10-2005, 10:49 AM

I actually do hate the Christian idea of god. I just started a new thread about the evil hopes and desires Christians harbor because of this gid/gad/god/ged/gyd/gud

cgordon · 08-10-2005, 10:56 AM

Nature itself abhors a vacuum, no?

However, I don't hate any god, or any other mythical being for that matter. I do hate the things people might do cloaked in the name of some god, however. I just don't need an imaginary friend. When you become an adult you no longer need imaginary friends ...

cg

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08-10-2005, 09:59 AM	#21
Neo-Nietzschean Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: somewhere left of the Postmodern turn Posts: 684	Perhaps people have an animosity towards God because He first expressed an animosity towards us. Actually all three of the Abrahamic deities seem to have a hatred of human beings. They look down upon us and try to instill in human beings self-hatred and loathing. Our dislike of them is well deserved. :thumbs:

08-10-2005, 10:02 AM	#22
King Rat Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 6,855	As a fictional character I don't think he is as interesting as Zeus or Shamash. As a literary device he is kind of ham-fisted and one dimensional compared to other archetypes.

08-10-2005, 10:02 AM	#23
Angrillori Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: A world less bright without WinAce. Posts: 7,482	God doesn't exist, ergo I hate him. I do however detest the idea of god foisted about by a lot of folks. You know, the god who exists merely as an excuse for its followers to act arrogantly, try to force their belief system on others, and whine about being persecuted while persecuting the daylights out of anyone different, and the like. God doesn't bother me, it's many of her followers that scare and disturb me. I think you'll find this a common enough sentiment amongst many atheists.

08-10-2005, 10:37 AM	#26
RevDahlia Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 4,930	What TySixtus said. I don't believe in God, but if he did exist, and if the Abrahamic religions were correct about his character, I wouldn't be too fond of the guy. He seems kinda like the worst boss in history.

08-10-2005, 10:49 AM	#29
steamer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: CA Posts: 7,653	I actually do hate the Christian idea of god. I just started a new thread about the evil hopes and desires Christians harbor because of this gid/gad/god/ged/gyd/gud

08-10-2005, 10:56 AM	#30
cgordon Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,402	Nature itself abhors a vacuum, no? However, I don't hate any god, or any other mythical being for that matter. I do hate the things people might do cloaked in the name of some god, however. I just don't need an imaginary friend. When you become an adult you no longer need imaginary friends ... cg

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