FRDB Archives

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.


Go Back   FRDB Archives > Archives > Existence of God(s)
Welcome, Peter Kirby.
You last visited: Yesterday at 03:12 PM

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-14-2006, 05:53 AM   #1
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: elberta alabama
Posts: 153
Default why should god do anything?

If god is all knowing,all powerfull,and exists outside of time why should god do or create anything?It seems to me this could only bore god totally.
sabalseed is offline  
Old 01-14-2006, 06:35 AM   #2
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: New England
Posts: 2,673
Default

I think to cure the boredom, God should watch the NFL playoff games this afternoon and tonight!
JustBlazed is offline  
Old 01-14-2006, 07:55 AM   #3
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Philippines
Posts: 168
Default

Why should God do something? In every voluntary action, there is a desire for a benefit. Does this mean that an almighty who has everything need a benefit? Why would he need to act when he already has everything? This should mean that there was something lacking before God acted and it's necessary for him to get that something. Is this God under necessity?
croissant101 is offline  
Old 01-15-2006, 12:25 AM   #4
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: north america
Posts: 68
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sabalseed
If god is all knowing,all powerfull,and exists outside of time why should god do or create anything?It seems to me this could only bore god totally.

Why shouldn't God create things? Why should it bore him? Shouldn't He be able to create something that won't bore Him? I thing God created us because He wants to loe us and He wants us to love him.
annie123e is offline  
Old 01-15-2006, 02:29 AM   #5
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Philippines
Posts: 168
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by annie123e
Why shouldn't God create things? Why should it bore him? Shouldn't He be able to create something that won't bore Him? I thing God created us because He wants to loe us and He wants us to love him.
I really think that every action of God is a contradiction. We have to love him, of course, for him to be loved by us. It is necessary for him to create us for him to be loved by us. If this is a necessity, then how can God be all powerful?
croissant101 is offline  
Old 01-15-2006, 03:05 AM   #6
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: S27°40.0',E153°03.8'
Posts: 88
Default

According to the Mormons, we have the ability to attain god status and create our own worlds just as god has created us.

Why we would bother is as yet unexplained.

IMaM
I married a Mormon is offline  
Old 01-15-2006, 03:07 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 687
Default

Quote:
Why shouldn't God create things? Why should it bore him? Shouldn't He be able to create something that won't bore Him? I thing God created us because He wants to loe us and He wants us to love him.
He was lonely?

A lot of creation (non Xian) stories happen either through fluke/luck, one god spiting another, one god or group of gods being bored, or lonely.
So the Xian god created us because he was lonely? Fair enough.
Thief of Time is offline  
Old 01-15-2006, 03:20 AM   #8
DBT
Contributor
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: ɹǝpunuʍop puɐן ǝɥʇ
Posts: 17,906
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by annie123e
Why shouldn't God create things? Why should it bore him? Shouldn't He be able to create something that won't bore Him? I thing God created us because He wants to loe us and He wants us to love him.
The love that a creature has for its master, and the love that a master has for His pet?

God having the need to create something that loves Him implies a lack of love in His existence.
DBT is offline  
Old 01-15-2006, 05:53 AM   #9
Contributor
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cylon Occupied Texas, but a Michigander @ heart
Posts: 10,326
Default

He had to be bored. After all, Adam and Eve loved God. And God loved them. Unconditionally. But then God thinks, "Hey, let's throw in this tree of knowledge and forbid A&E to partake". And they don't. And Love abounded through the garden of Eden. Then, God in his infinite wisdom/boredom let's a talking serpent goad Eve into the "Fall of Man" and blames it on Eve. Either God is not all love and has an evil streak in him, or didn't have enough love in him to protect A&E from the serpent he let goad Eve, or was bored and indifferent and threw in a plot device for his enjoyment.

There was no plan here. God made what was probably the best of all worlds and then mucked it up because he was bored, indifferent, evil. But then again, this could possibly be a fairy tale as well....
Gawen is offline  
Old 01-15-2006, 08:02 AM   #10
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Houston Area
Posts: 3,813
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBlazed
I think to cure the boredom, God should watch the NFL playoff games this afternoon and tonight!
In my opinion, professional football is a cause of boredom, not a cure for it. For that matter, all professional team sports, AKA "Millions for Morons".
jackrabbit is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:00 PM.

Top

This custom BB emulates vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.