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Jello · 02-14-2007, 05:17 PM

Hi flesh! :wave:

Here's hoping you are doing okay.

I've been kinda down today, but feeling a bit better.

I heard on the news, a local pet store burned down, killing 51 animals.

That and S.O.'s suicide has had me in the dumps.

rigorist · 02-14-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by flesh99

Linus forgive me!

Vista did some things right. Their photo management tools are pretty amazing. From what my mac geek friends say it beats the Mac stuff hands down. Their media management is done well but still lacking. Of course I have never found anything that wasn't lacking so take that for what it is worth. The eye candy is second to none but completely pointless. If I want eye candy I'll be using Kubuntu with Metisse and showing people what cool desktop really is. They totally screwed up the networking. You try joining and AD with wireless and see how it goes. The media sharing is done nicely and the discovery for that is well implemented.

Anybody using a Mac who cares about photo management is probably using Graphic Convertor already anyway.

praying · 02-14-2007, 05:19 PM

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It's not just a small group of malcontents. It is real people, with growing numbers,

Very true it is not a limited number of people (IIDB'ers) posting concerns there.

TheBear · 02-14-2007, 05:19 PM

Hey, Grizzly! :wave:

Good to see you.

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Originally Posted by Grizzly

When I quit CF (the first time - lol!)...

How many times is it now?

ravenscape · 02-14-2007, 05:28 PM

I don't think this will be disappeared, but what do I know?

http://www.christianforums.com/showt...6#post31854076

KatAutumn's OP is a good one, too.

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I don't often ask questions in this forum, but I read it fairly frequently. And I read the public appeals for the same reason: in order to try and understand how the rules are interpreted and applied.

I've given up. There is no way to figure out how the rules are interpreted and applied by reverse-engineering from the questions people ask here, or by forward-engineering from posts and threads that are eventually locked or deleted, at least in the fora where I read frequently, and would participate more often if I felt I understood the rules.

So, for the most part, I don't participate in the fora that first brought me to CF.

Sometimes I wonder why I'm still here. Especially when many of the people whose friendships have kept me interested in CF have left, either voluntarily or otherwise.

fanatique · 02-14-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Teshi

If I had to guess, I'd guess that someone got a bug up because they assumed you were trying to use French to be SUPER TRICKY and SUBVERT THE MODERATING PROCESS and that's why you got an infraction instead of the warning (or even just an edit) such a comment would normally receive.

If that's true, then I wonder why mayatesnomas doesn't appear to have received discipline for basically doing exactly that. He constantly reverts to Spanish in threads (mostly when he appears to be losing the debate), knowing that people don't understand him. When that happened in a thread where we'd been debating, I first asked him to speak English because I didn't understand him. When he continued to speak Spanish, I responded in kind and spoke to him in French, and we went back and forth for a while. That thread ended up getting closed after a while, but for something unrelated to the languages, if I remember correctly. But he continually will start speaking Spanish if things aren't going his way.

Joykins1 · 02-14-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonks

There is certainly more staff contact with members, I think...which is a function of two things..1) we have more moderators now so the stuff doens't pile up like it used to and 2) we're pretty much warning on anything that would require staff contact. As you know in the not too recent past a whole variety of teams had appeals for infractions turned over because they mainly handled things via PM instead of warning to show "grace." We need the paper trail to be consistent and fair to all members, I think.

This is a prime example of the law of unintended consequences.

"Get the infraction overturned on a technicality" as a strategy has bitten us in the rear end more than once. There are several ways it discourages behavior by staff that we want to *en*courage.

Members perceive warnings as hostile. Remember that.

TheBear · 02-14-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Joykins1

Members perceive warnings as hostile. Remember that.

That's a good point.

none the wiser · 02-14-2007, 08:21 PM

http://www.christianforums.com/t4807637

Can everyone else please report this? It's being turned into a "let's all agree that homosexuality is an abomination ^_^" thread. I'm not sure my report counts.

Jello · 02-14-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Joykins1

This is a prime example of the law of unintended consequences.

"Get the infraction overturned on a technicality" as a strategy has bitten us in the rear end more than once. There are several ways it discourages behavior by staff that we want to *en*courage.

Members perceive warnings as hostile. Remember that.

I can tell by your post that you still have hope. That's good.

Some of us have lost hope. :huh:

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02-14-2007, 05:17 PM	#601
Jello Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,928	Hi flesh! :wave: Here's hoping you are doing okay. I've been kinda down today, but feeling a bit better. I heard on the news, a local pet store burned down, killing 51 animals. That and S.O.'s suicide has had me in the dumps.

02-14-2007, 08:21 PM	#609
none the wiser Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: south Posts: 734	http://www.christianforums.com/t4807637 Can everyone else please report this? It's being turned into a "let's all agree that homosexuality is an abomination ^_^" thread. I'm not sure my report counts.

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