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Old 06-08-2004, 08:13 PM   #421
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The response was to what Islam/Mohammed offers one in Heaven. Are you saying that Jesus doesn't offer what you want in heaven? (The things you are talking about here are earthly things, and are largely prohibited or restricted by Islam as well).
We don't know much of anything about Heaven. Being with God for eternity is a big perk for me though, but not to those who want nothing to do with him.
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:16 PM   #422
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There is no possible way to link that Hebrews scripture with God making clothes for A&E beyond reading waaay too much into the account.
Did you word that correctly? The verse I posted specifically states God made clothes of animal skin for them.
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:17 PM   #423
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Perhaps then you'd care to explain why Jesus' daddy created us with that pesky human nature in the first place?
He didn't, its a sin nature. Jesus possessed the nature we were intended to have (not the divine part).
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:24 PM   #424
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He didn't
If he didn't, where did it come from?

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Jesus possessed the nature we were intended to have (not the divine part).
If we were intended to have it, why didn't god give it to us in the first place?
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:26 PM   #425
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The verse I posted specifically states God made clothes of animal skin for them.
Is the omnipotent creator of the universe unable to produce an animal skin without killing the animal?
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:26 PM   #426
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If he didn't, where did it come from?
From sin entering the world and corrupting humanity.



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If we were intended to have it, why didn't god give it to us in the first place?
Who said He didn't? Adam and Eve were probably created that way, but they fell and were corrupted by sin.
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:27 PM   #427
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Is the omnipotent creator of the universe unable to produce an animal skin without killing the animal?
Of course He's not, but there is symbolism of why He chose an animal skin over weaving cotton into a T-shirt.
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:28 PM   #428
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We don't know much of anything about Heaven.
Actually, we do know some things about heaven. Revelations provides a description, and Jesus adds the part about no marriage in heaven.

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Being with God for eternity is a big perk for me though, but not to those who want nothing to do with him.
Or perhaps with his followers.
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Of course He's not
Good. Then you're reading more into the text than is there. It says he used animal skins, and you take that to mean that he killed an animal even though he could have created those skins by waving his hand.

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but there is symbolism of why He chose an animal skin over weaving cotton into a T-shirt.
All this means is that the people who wrote the bible weren't aware of T-shirts, but were aware of animal hides.
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From sin entering the world and corrupting humanity.
How could sin enter the world if Adam and Eve weren't created with (flawed) human nature? Sin could only enter the world if they were created less than perfect, and that puts the ultimate responsibility for their sin on god.

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Who said He didn't?
An intention implies that the thing wasn't actually done.

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Adam and Eve were probably created that way, but they fell and were corrupted by sin.
If God gave them the human nature that Jesus had, how could they have fallen?
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