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Crazy Liz · 02-20-2007, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chaoschristian

It is called the Pastoral Team.

And as far as I can discern, it's has a good start with it's initial members.

However, that announcement is one more example of how poor CF upper staff are at communicating a message.

The team is a good thing, especially within the context of the ministry, and the people I see serving on it are good people.

But P_G blew it with his opening line, "CF has added a new ministry Team called Omega." Immediately he opens up with something that is 1) distracting 2) not relevant to the message 3) bound to get the kinds of questions its generating.

Look at Ksen's announcement of the new PAD a little while back. It's not that Daveleau qualified for the position because he's knowledgable about Protestant affairs, capable of representing the myriad denominations, on-board with the CF mission. No, it's because he's been on staff. I'm not saying that is why Davelaeu position or that he's not qualified. I'm saying that Ksen's message was poorly constructed.

And then go back and look at the royal cockup of imaniigod's announcement to Exec. Here you have other members of Exec, her supposed peers, openly talking about the internal discension behind her appointment.

I have no doubts that the members of Exec are well intended folks who want nothing but the best for CF, but I question whether or not any of them have had actual experience in executive level communication and communication with large diverse constituencies. From what I've read and seen, and as importanly - not seen - coming from them, I have my doubts.

I think you hit the nail on the head. When making announcements or answering questions, staff don't practice putting themselves in the shoes of the recipient, and asking themselves what the member would want to know. Some training in communication at all levels of staff would be very helpful.

praying · 02-20-2007, 09:24 AM

Bobthetomato is on it, I like bob aka tall.

ETA: Not that I don't like the others before people read into that statement.

Joykins1 · 02-20-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BigToe

I don't think it is fair to make judgments about Erwin's faith and its strength or not based on how busy he is and his choice to turn over a website to the hands of moderators.

I agree.

seebs · 02-20-2007, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Liz

I think you hit the nail on the head. When making announcements or answering questions, staff don't practice putting themselves in the shoes of the recipient, and asking themselves what the member would want to know. Some training in communication at all levels of staff would be very helpful.

Yeah. Unfortunately, some of them appear to be involved in religious groups that consider compassion to be a weakness and an opening to sin. If you put yourself in someone's shoes, and they're a sinner, doesn't that give you sinny feet?

insaneinthebrain · 02-20-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigToe

I also don't see a problem with people who want to hold onto the notion that people are generally good. I like my rose colored glasses, so I'm not going to try to break someone else's.

While there are bad people who do bad things, I think the average person is good and just makes lots of stupid choices.

SweetEscape · 02-20-2007, 10:04 AM

please, pray for monkeywrench_1
he really needs to prayers
I can't say much
I just wish I could be his friend again
he decided he needed to say goodbye
it really hurt me and made me a little crazy I guess.
the man is hiding behind a smile, he is really sad and stress.
just pray for him

praying · 02-20-2007, 10:15 AM

Harpuia · 02-20-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by praying

I am right now. I have Silentreader and Followers4Christ ready to make my blood boil right before my test in one hour... great...

bobthetomato · 02-20-2007, 10:56 AM

Thanks for the endorsement Praying

I am hoping it will be a chance to do more one on one ministry and less debating reports!

Harpuia....sorry I am not familiar with everyone, but who is silentreader?

Stumpjumper · 02-20-2007, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bobthetomato

I am hoping it will be a chance to do more one on one ministry and less debating reports!

Congrats Tall! You have my endorsement as well...

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praying Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 9,043	Bobthetomato is on it, I like bob aka tall. ETA: Not that I don't like the others before people read into that statement.

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SweetEscape Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The South Posts: 256	please, pray for monkeywrench_1 he really needs to prayers I can't say much I just wish I could be his friend again he decided he needed to say goodbye it really hurt me and made me a little crazy I guess. the man is hiding behind a smile, he is really sad and stress. just pray for him

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bobthetomato Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: usa Posts: 421	Thanks for the endorsement Praying I am hoping it will be a chance to do more one on one ministry and less debating reports! Harpuia....sorry I am not familiar with everyone, but who is silentreader?

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