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Old 01-13-2009, 01:50 PM   #11
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She claims not to be anti-religion. I think she is anti-fundamentalist, but pro-new age.
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Ted Hoffman "Dave, start with Malachi's incomplete critique address criticisms in pages 2 to 4."
So this guy "Malachi151" at the FRDB forum, "rationalrevolution" at the Dawkins & Harris forums, and "ice cream man" at Secularweb, is R.G. Price and HE HAS NO BIBLICAL CREDENTIALS WHATSOEVER

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- R.G. Price
Actually, you're even FURTHER proving my point - He's been attacking Acharya with straw man arguments for 2 years or more BEFORE he ever 'read her work'. His so-called review comes with preconceived biases before he ever started "reading" it. And he's been working on it with help from irrationally biased individuals for what, over a year now? Every time her name comes up they gather together to see what other trash they can come up with however they can - like junior high school kids.

Price has no relevant credentials whatsoever so his opinion is pretty much just his opinion. He attacks the parts where she discusses linguistics and he knows no other languages at all. He simply has no clue what he's talking about when it comes to her work. He's arguing far beyond his station. He, like many others simply aren't the goto people for objective, accurate information concerning Acharya's works. It's simply intellectually dishonest for Carrier and others to critique the works they know next to nothing about. It's an embarrassment to all Freethinkers.

Many who've actually read her work find it valuable.

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- Earl Doherty, in a review of Acharya's "Christ Conspiracy"
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She claims not to be anti-religion. I think she is anti-fundamentalist, but pro-new age.
I would say she's simply not irrationally anti-religion in general - she says she finds the origins and comparative study of religions fascinating but certainly does take issue with fundamentalism including atheist fundamentalism as well.

However, she doesn't consider herself or her work, "new-age."
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So this guy "Malachi151" at the FRDB forum, "rationalrevolution" at the Dawkins & Harris forums, and "ice cream man" at Secularweb, is R.G. Price and HE HAS NO BIBLICAL CREDENTIALS WHATSOEVER
Nor does AS (or you, for that matter). So what's your point?

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He attacks the parts where she discusses linguistics and he knows no other languages at all.
Nor does AS (or for that matter, you). So what's your point?

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Many who've actually read her work find it valuable.
Many who have read The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or Diantetics or Science and Health with a Key to the Scriptures or the Left Behind series have found them valuable, even life transforming. What's your point?

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Yes Jeffrey, everybody here knows that they can always count on you for endless stream of anal retentive nonsense. You're not even accurate as per usual in your false assumptions, but thanks for further proving my point with your irrational biases against Acharya's work which, you too, have never studied and therefore, know virtually nothing about. I'll just ignore you as you have nothing else to offer here.

There's a monumental hypocritical double-standard at play here. The fact remains that Carriers criticism of Acharya was in error. Carrier is guilty of exactly what he and other irrationally biased critics who've never studied her work at guilty of, "poor and sloppy scholarship."

"... However, in "skimming" Brunner's text, as he puts it, Carrier has mistakenly dealt with the substantially different Hatshepsut text (Brunner's "IV D"), demonstrating an egregious error in garbling the cycles, when in fact we are specifically interested in the Luxor narrative (IV L)..."
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Yes Jeffrey, everybody here knows that they can always count on you for endless stream of anal retentive nonsense. You're not even accurate as per usual in your false assumptions,
Could you please tell me in which of the 3 (endless??) claims I made

1. that both you and she do not have any degrees from universities in Biblical studies

2. that both you and she are not fluent in/ know ancient Hebrew or, Greek, let alone Egyptian or any other ancient language; and

3. that many have found the books I mentioned helpful and even life changing

I actually am not "accurate" and how it is, if this is the case, that I am not accurate?

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Acharya S (Diane Murdoch) does claim a BA in Classics, Greek Civilization, from Franklin & Marshall college, and to read classical Greek and Latin, and to have worked on archeological digs. I see no reason to doubt those claims.
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Acharya S (Diane Murdoch) does claim a BA in Classics, Greek Civilization, from Franklin & Marshall college, and to read classical Greek and Latin, and to have worked on archeological digs. I see no reason to doubt those claims.
A BA in Greek Civilization is not a degree in Biblical Studies. And did she not once have to ask Bob Price how one pronounces "Septuagint"? That for me is a good reason to doubt, if not her language claims, then her familiarity with Biblical Studies.

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Dave31, I really don't think it does your defense much good to condemn the prosecution for their lack of scholarly credentials or for not reading enough of your client's materials. Since you are here exclusively to defend Acharya S, I can tell you what will help to silence my condemnation. I think the most persuasive thing you can do is to scan an image of the first page (containing complete source information) of any of Acharya S's recent bibliographies and post it online. I keep hearing that Acharya S has improved her methods, and I would like to see how true that is.
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Acharya S (Diane Murdoch) does claim a BA in Classics, Greek Civilization, from Franklin & Marshall college, and to read classical Greek and Latin, and to have worked on archeological digs. I see no reason to doubt those claims.
A BA in Greek Civilization is not a degree in Biblical Studies.
Isn't it superior?

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And did she not once have to ask Bob Price how one pronounces "Septuagint"? That for me is a good reason to doubt, if not her language claims, then her familiarity with Biblical Studies.

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Who said she was doing "Biblical studies?" She is doing comparative religion.
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