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Julian · 04-11-2005, 11:04 AM

Interesting note. They work okay in Netscape. *shrug*

ETA: They work in Firefox, as well...

Ulrich · 04-11-2005, 12:27 PM

Only the first font(Arial Unicode MS,Palatino Linotype,Code2000,TITUS Cyberbit Basic,Athena), and the plain Palatino Linotype display properly for me. Here at work I use IE 6 and Win2K, at home I use Firefox on WinXP, I suspect it will display more fonts, but I will have to check on that later.

The accented characters that do not show up for me appear as boxes instead. On the two fonts that do work properly, I can see no difference between them.

Lugubert · 04-11-2005, 01:10 PM

Selecting Unicode in MS Internet Explorer, all but accented characters are OK. I don't want to fiddle with other settings, b/c I finally got them all right for most of my needs.

Copying and pasting into a Word document, all letters were OK. The examples I liked most were TITUS Cyberbit Basic only, and the slightly wider spaced Palatino Linotype only. Athena borrowed accents from Tahoma, which gave a strange mixed appearance; Arial Unicode MS only, Code 2000 only and the "Arial Unicode MS,Palatino Linotype,Code2000,TITUS Cyberbit Basic,Athena" were ridiculously wide (more than 2 x Titus).

Toto · 04-11-2005, 01:55 PM

The problem with Tahoma: some earlier versions of that font (before Windows2002 or XP) do not contain Greek polytonic characters, so if that is the first font listed and the viewer has an older version of Tahoma, it overrides any other fonts the viewer has downloaded.

You can download a polytonic version of Tahoma here:

http://support.vnn.vn/tiengviet/ from the link that says "Bộ font Unicode dưới dạng ZIP file"

more downloads here:

http://www.travelphrases.info/galler...reekPoly2.html

Rick Sumner · 04-11-2005, 04:18 PM

Works spiffy in Linux (FC3) with Epiphany, Konqueror and Firefox.

Sven · 04-12-2005, 02:06 AM

Could we make this thread "sticky"?

Peter Kirby · 04-12-2005, 10:47 PM

I vote for unstickying this thread and incorporating the information into the other sticky (which already has similar info).

best,
Peter Kirby

Toto · 04-16-2005, 12:42 AM

Not sure what to do with this. I can see all of the characters in Foxfire, but not in IE 6.0, even with all the fonts installed.

But I will transfer the information to the Ancient Languages link and unstick this.

Ulrich · 04-16-2005, 08:51 AM

I can see them all using Foxfire as well, yet another reason not to use IE!

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04-11-2005, 11:04 AM	#11
Julian Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Washington, DC (formerly Denmark) Posts: 3,789	Interesting note. They work okay in Netscape. shrug ETA: They work in Firefox, as well...

04-11-2005, 12:27 PM	#12
Ulrich Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: St Louis Metro East Posts: 1,046	Only the first font(Arial Unicode MS,Palatino Linotype,Code2000,TITUS Cyberbit Basic,Athena), and the plain Palatino Linotype display properly for me. Here at work I use IE 6 and Win2K, at home I use Firefox on WinXP, I suspect it will display more fonts, but I will have to check on that later. The accented characters that do not show up for me appear as boxes instead. On the two fonts that do work properly, I can see no difference between them.

04-11-2005, 01:10 PM	#13
Lugubert Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Western Sweden Posts: 3,684	Selecting Unicode in MS Internet Explorer, all but accented characters are OK. I don't want to fiddle with other settings, b/c I finally got them all right for most of my needs. Copying and pasting into a Word document, all letters were OK. The examples I liked most were TITUS Cyberbit Basic only, and the slightly wider spaced Palatino Linotype only. Athena borrowed accents from Tahoma, which gave a strange mixed appearance; Arial Unicode MS only, Code 2000 only and the "Arial Unicode MS,Palatino Linotype,Code2000,TITUS Cyberbit Basic,Athena" were ridiculously wide (more than 2 x Titus).

04-11-2005, 01:55 PM	#14
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	The problem with Tahoma: some earlier versions of that font (before Windows2002 or XP) do not contain Greek polytonic characters, so if that is the first font listed and the viewer has an older version of Tahoma, it overrides any other fonts the viewer has downloaded. You can download a polytonic version of Tahoma here: http://support.vnn.vn/tiengviet/ from the link that says "Bộ font Unicode dưới dạng ZIP file" more downloads here: http://www.travelphrases.info/galler...reekPoly2.html

04-11-2005, 04:18 PM	#15
Rick Sumner Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada Posts: 2,612	Works spiffy in Linux (FC3) with Epiphany, Konqueror and Firefox.

04-12-2005, 02:06 AM	#16
Sven Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: outraged about the stiffling of free speech here Posts: 10,987	Could we make this thread "sticky"?

04-12-2005, 10:47 PM	#17
Peter Kirby Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: the reliquary of Ockham's razor Posts: 4,035	I vote for unstickying this thread and incorporating the information into the other sticky (which already has similar info). best, Peter Kirby

04-16-2005, 12:42 AM	#18
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Not sure what to do with this. I can see all of the characters in Foxfire, but not in IE 6.0, even with all the fonts installed. But I will transfer the information to the Ancient Languages link and unstick this.

04-16-2005, 08:51 AM	#19
Ulrich Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: St Louis Metro East Posts: 1,046	I can see them all using Foxfire as well, yet another reason not to use IE!

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