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John95683 · 12-09-2004, 03:55 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=315976

Flew is now saying that he believes that an intelligent force created the universe and life. He goes on to say that his belief is closer to deism, and is a long way from Christianity or Islam. He does not believe in an afterlife.

Still, I'm sure that IDers will jump all over this.

John

Mageth · 12-09-2004, 03:58 PM

This is at least the fourth thread on this topic.

Here's a link to one such thread, which links to two previous threads:

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=108608

John95683 · 12-09-2004, 04:09 PM

Sorry if this is old news, but the link I posted, which I got from The Drudge Report today, was from ABC News. I suspect that the story will now receive wide circulation in the mainstream media.

seebs · 12-09-2004, 04:17 PM

Er, who cares?

I mean... What effect does this have on any of us? What would we do differently? How will Mr. Flew's life be changed by this?

I guess I don't see why this should be "news". Bleh. Media annoying.

seebs · 12-09-2004, 04:22 PM

http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=138

Apparently, he's still an atheist, he just sees it as possible for rational people to be theistic. No big surprises. Party over, everyone go home.

John95683 · 12-09-2004, 04:36 PM

I agree that it's no big deal. After all, if there is no afterlife, what difference does it make if god exists or not?

Still, the IDers will take this as a validation, and will probably misquote Flew or take his remarks out of of context.

Best to be informed of the full story, I think.

Evolutionist · 12-09-2004, 06:07 PM

Oh, TWeb are loving this!

http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/sho...3&page=1&pp=16

Rochs · 12-09-2004, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seebs

http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=138

Apparently, he's still an atheist, he just sees it as possible for rational people to be theistic. No big surprises. Party over, everyone go home.

I didn't see a date on that article. Was that posted today, or in 2001?

Jobar · 12-09-2004, 06:39 PM

At the bottom of that article seebs linked to:

Date published: 08/31/2001

My comment in E/C applies equally here- you'd think he was sharp enough to realize that you can't solve a mystery by positing a bigger mystery...

seebs · 12-09-2004, 06:40 PM

Well, I dunno. I suppose we could ask to see whether his position has changed, but I have no obvious reason to believe it's not the same old rumors.

12-09-2004, 03:55 PM	#1
John95683 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CA Posts: 19	Anthony Flew now believes in God http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=315976 Flew is now saying that he believes that an intelligent force created the universe and life. He goes on to say that his belief is closer to deism, and is a long way from Christianity or Islam. He does not believe in an afterlife. Still, I'm sure that IDers will jump all over this. John

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12-09-2004, 03:58 PM	#2
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	This is at least the fourth thread on this topic. Here's a link to one such thread, which links to two previous threads: http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=108608

12-09-2004, 04:09 PM	#3
John95683 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CA Posts: 19	Sorry if this is old news, but the link I posted, which I got from The Drudge Report today, was from ABC News. I suspect that the story will now receive wide circulation in the mainstream media.

12-09-2004, 04:17 PM	#4
seebs Contributor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 24,524	Er, who cares? I mean... What effect does this have on any of us? What would we do differently? How will Mr. Flew's life be changed by this? I guess I don't see why this should be "news". Bleh. Media annoying.

12-09-2004, 04:22 PM	#5
seebs Contributor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 24,524	http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=138 Apparently, he's still an atheist, he just sees it as possible for rational people to be theistic. No big surprises. Party over, everyone go home.

12-09-2004, 04:36 PM	#6
John95683 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CA Posts: 19	I agree that it's no big deal. After all, if there is no afterlife, what difference does it make if god exists or not? Still, the IDers will take this as a validation, and will probably misquote Flew or take his remarks out of of context. Best to be informed of the full story, I think.

12-09-2004, 06:07 PM	#7
Evolutionist Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London Posts: 680	Oh, TWeb are loving this! http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/sho...3&page=1&pp=16

12-09-2004, 06:39 PM	#9
Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	At the bottom of that article seebs linked to: Date published: 08/31/2001 My comment in E/C applies equally here- you'd think he was sharp enough to realize that you can't solve a mystery by positing a bigger mystery...

12-09-2004, 06:40 PM	#10
seebs Contributor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 24,524	Well, I dunno. I suppose we could ask to see whether his position has changed, but I have no obvious reason to believe it's not the same old rumors.

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