Freethought & Rationalism Archive

Carrie · 03-03-2004, 08:28 AM

Check this out - I got on a Christian forum for the International Church of Christ (a church that thinks they're the only ones saved, and I used to be in this church). I asked if it is okay to date outside of the church. A guy I actually know responded and here's what he said:

"Out of 100 different times I've seen it, I've seen it work once. So that's one out of 100. The one time it did, the guy vowed to be pure and study the bible with us. And he got rebaptized. If you really love God, then you'll do what ever it takes to protect that
relationship. I'm marrying a disciple or I'm dying single. Do you really know of any disicples outside of the church? Again, out of 1000's that I know, I know maybe 1 that I can call a true disciple that isn't in the church. Why go looking for trouble or a needle in a
hay stack when you can just drive an hour to meet some Disciples in another city or just save your money and go to a lot of singles retreats. This really shouldn't be a debate and it's been talked about before....so here we go again....posts like this bring all the freaks out the woodwork."

Wow.... a church full of people like this guy. You can see why I left. Uch!

Mageth · 03-03-2004, 08:34 AM

That philosophy pushes the church towards the definition of a "cult", IMO.

Rhea · 03-03-2004, 08:42 AM

Closer. Pushes it closer towards.

Shake · 03-03-2004, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie
I asked if it is okay to date outside of the church. A guy I actually know responded and here's what he said:

"Out of 100 different times I've seen it, I've seen it work once. ... This really shouldn't be a debate and it's been talked about before....so here we go again....posts like this bring all the freaks out the woodwork."

Wow.... a church full of people like this guy. You can see why I left. Uch!

Yeah, it sounds like he now considers you a freak!

Carrie · 03-03-2004, 08:49 AM

Hi guys, good to see you

Yeah, it most definately IS a cult. I got out because I was one of the "freaks" who were always asking too many questions. But my husband is still in it!

I'm slowly and cautiously trying to persuade him out of it. He's not much like them anymore, thanks in part to my influence, but his friends are in it, so he keeps going. I have kept two of my friends from the church, so that's helping him to see that he can leave the church and still keep his friends. The friends I chose to keep are the ones who are not quite as close minded. But the church at large just disgusts me!

Rymmie1981 · 03-03-2004, 09:57 AM

Come to ICC Singles' Retreats where we will show the "love" of Jesus. Here at this resort so far away from civilization it might be on another continent, you will "learn" how true disciples of Christ think and act. We will give you "advice" on how to change your wardrobe so that Satan cannot use you to cause lustful thoughts in the opposite gender.

We will have classes in the morning, service in the evening, and praising Jesus all night long! We want to invite you to the most dynamic, and inescapable, re-educa...we mean, Singles' Retreat in the Northwest. We hope you will join us for six days of laughter, love, and fun in the Holy Spirit!

Remember, Jesus loves you and so do we!

Carrie · 03-03-2004, 11:10 AM

Yeah and if you want to find a date, there will be a great selection of about 12 people for you to choose from! These are high quality single disciples who are so devoted to the Lord that many of them have remained single well into old age, just holding out for that right disciple to come along.

4th Generation Atheist · 03-03-2004, 11:36 AM

So....you could only date in church? What about the rest of the week? What if you wanted to go somewhere else? Hope it was a big church, to make room for all the couples.....what if the building burned down, then no one could date at all? How could you reproduce?

blt to go · 03-03-2004, 12:10 PM

Quote:

"Out of 100 different times I've seen it, I've seen it work once.

This would imply it happens ALOT. I would think if it was so Obvious to date "within" a church, they would be questioning why so many seem to choose otherwise?

I am not familiar with ICC.

Carrie · 03-03-2004, 01:13 PM

The ICC is among the worst of Fundamentalist Christian churches. Other churches hate it and call it a cult. And they're right about that.

Recently some more powerful church leaders got fed up with how things were and wrote a letter that has caused a big upheaval. Now the church is starting to change, but in some places more than others. In the Chicago church they are now letting members date who they consider "Christians" outside of the church. Down here in the Bloomington, IL church I don't think they can date outside the church. At least I don't know of anyone doing it. It probably just hasn't been brought up yet. It's a small church here and the singles would be afraid of being looked down on for dating outside the church, or they don't want to date outside the church.

Since the Chicago church started letting people date outside the church, apparently it has been "disasterous" according to the church member who responded to my posted question about it.
At least they are allowing it, but as you can see, there is disagreement among members about the issue.

The ICC church is very confused right now, and I find it hilarious because they've always prided themselves on being united and
firm about their doctrine. And now half the people don't even know what the hell the doctrine is. There seems to be no official church position on some things, and that really throws the members off because these are people who like and are used to things being in black and white.

Those poor poor cult members

I say that jokingly, but it's kinda serious because these people are messed up and don't even know it.

03-03-2004, 08:28 AM	#1
Carrie Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Midwest Posts: 424	A Christian's dumb-ass comment about dating outside his church Check this out - I got on a Christian forum for the International Church of Christ (a church that thinks they're the only ones saved, and I used to be in this church). I asked if it is okay to date outside of the church. A guy I actually know responded and here's what he said: "Out of 100 different times I've seen it, I've seen it work once. So that's one out of 100. The one time it did, the guy vowed to be pure and study the bible with us. And he got rebaptized. If you really love God, then you'll do what ever it takes to protect that relationship. I'm marrying a disciple or I'm dying single. Do you really know of any disicples outside of the church? Again, out of 1000's that I know, I know maybe 1 that I can call a true disciple that isn't in the church. Why go looking for trouble or a needle in a hay stack when you can just drive an hour to meet some Disciples in another city or just save your money and go to a lot of singles retreats. This really shouldn't be a debate and it's been talked about before....so here we go again....posts like this bring all the freaks out the woodwork." Wow.... a church full of people like this guy. You can see why I left. Uch!

03-03-2004, 09:57 AM	#6
Rymmie1981 Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: At the Edge of the River Posts: 499	Singles Retreats Come to ICC Singles' Retreats where we will show the "love" of Jesus. Here at this resort so far away from civilization it might be on another continent, you will "learn" how true disciples of Christ think and act. We will give you "advice" on how to change your wardrobe so that Satan cannot use you to cause lustful thoughts in the opposite gender. We will have classes in the morning, service in the evening, and praising Jesus all night long! We want to invite you to the most dynamic, and inescapable, re-educa...we mean, Singles' Retreat in the Northwest. We hope you will join us for six days of laughter, love, and fun in the Holy Spirit! Remember, Jesus loves you and so do we!

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

03-03-2004, 08:34 AM	#2
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	That philosophy pushes the church towards the definition of a "cult", IMO.

03-03-2004, 08:42 AM	#3
Rhea Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Recluse Posts: 9,040	Closer. Pushes it closer towards.

03-03-2004, 08:49 AM	#5
Carrie Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Midwest Posts: 424	Hi guys, good to see you Yeah, it most definately IS a cult. I got out because I was one of the "freaks" who were always asking too many questions. But my husband is still in it! I'm slowly and cautiously trying to persuade him out of it. He's not much like them anymore, thanks in part to my influence, but his friends are in it, so he keeps going. I have kept two of my friends from the church, so that's helping him to see that he can leave the church and still keep his friends. The friends I chose to keep are the ones who are not quite as close minded. But the church at large just disgusts me!

03-03-2004, 11:10 AM	#7
Carrie Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Midwest Posts: 424	Yeah and if you want to find a date, there will be a great selection of about 12 people for you to choose from! These are high quality single disciples who are so devoted to the Lord that many of them have remained single well into old age, just holding out for that right disciple to come along.

03-03-2004, 11:36 AM	#8
4th Generation Atheist Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Tower of Ecthelion...by the Starbuck's Posts: 1,815	So....you could only date in church? What about the rest of the week? What if you wanted to go somewhere else? Hope it was a big church, to make room for all the couples.....what if the building burned down, then no one could date at all? How could you reproduce?

03-03-2004, 01:13 PM	#10
Carrie Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Midwest Posts: 424	The ICC is among the worst of Fundamentalist Christian churches. Other churches hate it and call it a cult. And they're right about that. Recently some more powerful church leaders got fed up with how things were and wrote a letter that has caused a big upheaval. Now the church is starting to change, but in some places more than others. In the Chicago church they are now letting members date who they consider "Christians" outside of the church. Down here in the Bloomington, IL church I don't think they can date outside the church. At least I don't know of anyone doing it. It probably just hasn't been brought up yet. It's a small church here and the singles would be afraid of being looked down on for dating outside the church, or they don't want to date outside the church. Since the Chicago church started letting people date outside the church, apparently it has been "disasterous" according to the church member who responded to my posted question about it. At least they are allowing it, but as you can see, there is disagreement among members about the issue. The ICC church is very confused right now, and I find it hilarious because they've always prided themselves on being united and firm about their doctrine. And now half the people don't even know what the hell the doctrine is. There seems to be no official church position on some things, and that really throws the members off because these are people who like and are used to things being in black and white. Those poor poor cult members I say that jokingly, but it's kinda serious because these people are messed up and don't even know it.

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.