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Old 06-09-2004, 03:22 PM   #1
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Atheists often present themselves as rational and unprejudiced people. I think this is only a mask of their deep bigotry and hatefulness against anyone who thinks in a different way, say, theists or agnostics. For that reason I'm inclined to call them the Materialist Inquisition, although they are more inquisitorial (**) than materialist, and more emotional than scientific.

Well, a few weeks ago I joined "Atheist vs. God". I detected their hostility at first sight, but I pretended to ignore it for the sake of further discussions. However, someone in that community pushed it too far and forced me into a kafkian process as follows:

1) Otto accuses me of plagiarism without any valid proof.

2) I energically deny the charges.

3) Adrian, Sinbad, ASeaOfSins, Sirplus1 and WD join the accusation, being many of them well known for their responsabilities in the message board. Their only argument against me is they trust Otto.

4) I repeatedly prove them that Otto's plot -which he kept changing all the time- is wrong and malicious.

5) Now, although nobody has retracted, only Otto and Adrian maintain the accusation. Plus, two of Otto's comrades, Jon and drmcf, seem to give credibility to my claims:



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Let's assume for the moment you're telling the truth, irichc (Jon).

I understand your anger... if you are correct, but I don't think you are seeing things from Otto's perspective (drmcf).

Nevertheless, they don't dare to blame Otto's temerity.

6) So I give Otto an ultimatum: if he doesn't apologize in time, I will spread the thread containing his false accusations.

7) Otto hasn't apologized yet.

8) Administrators have banned me unfairly.

Please, to check the veracity of my version, read this thread from message #5:

http://groups.msn.com/AtheistVSGod/g...lete=0&CDir=-2

And particularly:

http://groups.msn.com/AtheistVSGod/g...lete=0&CDir=-2


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(**) inquisitorial - especially indicating a form of prosecution in which proceedings are secret and the accused is questioned by a prosecutor who acts also as the judge.
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This doesn't belong in GRD, or anywhere else that I can think of, which means it's headed for ~~Elsewhere~~.

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This doesn't belong in GRD, or anywhere else that I can think of, which means it's headed for ~~Elsewhere~~.
Then kick "Christian are hostile to Atheist" thread too.

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This doesn't belong in GRD, or anywhere else that I can think of, which means it's headed for ~~Elsewhere~~.

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I agree, but you do realize that will just be further "proof" of the "deep hatred and bgotry" of atheists everywhere :banghead:
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Atheists often present themselves as rational and unprejudiced people. I think this is only a mask of their deep bigotry and hatefulness against anyone who thinks in a different way, say, theists or agnostics. For that reason I'm inclined to call them the Materialist Inquisition, although they are more inquisitorial (**) than materialist, and more emotional than scientific.

Well, a few weeks ago I joined "Atheist vs. God". I detected their hostility at first sight, but I pretended to ignore it for the sake of further discussions. However, someone in that community pushed it too far and forced me into a kafkian process as follows:

1) Otto accuses me of plagiarism without any valid proof.

2) I energically deny the charges.

3) Adrian, Sinbad, ASeaOfSins, Sirplus1 and WD join the accusation, being many of them well known for their responsabilities in the message board. Their only argument against me is they trust Otto.

4) I repeatedly prove them that Otto's plot -which he kept changing all the time- is wrong and malicious.

5) Now, although nobody has retracted, only Otto and Adrian maintain the accusation. Plus, two of Otto's comrades, Jon and drmcf, seem to give credibility to my claims:






Nevertheless, they don't dare to blame Otto's temerity.

6) So I give Otto an ultimatum: if he doesn't apologize in time, I will spread the thread containing his false accusations.

7) Otto hasn't apologized yet.

8) Administrators have banned me unfairly.

Please, to check the veracity of my version, read this thread from message #5:

http://groups.msn.com/AtheistVSGod/g...lete=0&CDir=-2

And particularly:

http://groups.msn.com/AtheistVSGod/g...lete=0&CDir=-2


Greetings.

Daniel.


(**) inquisitorial - especially indicating a form of prosecution in which proceedings are secret and the accused is questioned by a prosecutor who acts also as the judge.
Don't you think it is a bit rash to judge all atheists by one experience on a board. Of course there are atheists who have come to their conclusions because of their emotions or feelings, but you can't say that they're all this way. It would be as if I want to a forum such as Rapture Ready and then proceeded to judge all christians as being gullible doomsday enthusiasts based on my experience there.
 
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6) So I give Otto an ultimatum: if he doesn't apologize in time, I will spread the thread containing his false accusations.
Does that make this thread spam?


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Blimey, I didn't expect the Materialist Inquisition!
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Old 06-19-2004, 05:17 PM   #8
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Don't you think it is a bit rash to judge all atheists by one experience on a board.
I didn't say it was the only one. Check this, for instance:

http://www.atheistnetwork.com/module...ewtopic&t=2556

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Atheists often present themselves as rational and unprejudiced people.
I (as an atheist) usually only present myself as deeply sexy. Occasionally as a committed gardener, too.
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I think this is only a mask of their deep bigotry and hatefulness against anyone who thinks in a different way, say, theists or agnostics.
It's already been said, but do you always judge a whole classification by a few members ?
Couldn't you also be guily of "deep bigotry" in assuming all atheists are hateful etc. ?
There are some nice atheists floating around, you know.
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Otto....Adrian, Sinbad, ASeaOfSins, Sirplus1 and WD
Now who gives a stuff ?
Either you're wrong or you're right or somewhere inbetween; but those people do not define "atheism".
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I present myself as a series of 1s and 0s.

I've also been known to present myself as an ASCII movie, but not really.

Have you ever seen an ASCII movie? Man, some people have way too much time on thier hands.

This has been a pointless contribution to a rather interesting thread (in a train wreck sort of way).
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