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Old 11-13-2010, 09:35 AM   #21
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Told you so Doug, you jus gotta buy'a da Boook!

Only 'dere, an only by Leetlejon is poot togetter alla da fragments weech 'e hath gattered ere n dere!


Pity this guys poor family, which he claims have had to suffer and sacrifice as he pursued his 'studies'.

When, or if he ever finally publishes, he may earn a front page blurb on The National Inquirer.
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Told you so Doug, you jus gotta buy'a da Boook!

Only 'dere, an only by Leetlejon is poot togetter alla da fragments weech 'e hath gattered ere n dere!


Pity this guys poor family, which he claims have had to suffer and sacrifice as he pursued his 'studies'.

When, or if he ever finally publishes, he may earn a front page blurb on The National Inquirer.
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Ehi Chuk, I'm not chunk!...You, instead, seem to me a little drunk...


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Judas Thomas (from the Hebrew 'Toma', meaning 'equal', 'twin') was the twin of Jesus: ergo, there should be no doubt about the fact that he was the brother of Jesus according to the 'flesh and blood' .
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Please explain why you believe Thomas/Didymus to have been the twin brother of Jesus.
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In the list of the Jesus' brothers is the name Judah present. There are patristic testimonies that prove that Judas Thomas was the brother of Jesus)

The greek pseudo-name 'Thomas' (Θομας) is simply the phonetic transliteration of the Hebrew 'Tomah', meaning 'equal', 'twin'.

In the 'incipit' of the Gospel of Thomas it is found: "These are the secret words which the living Jesus taught and which Judas Thomas Didymos wrote down." What better proof that 'Didymos' and 'Thomas' were attributes both applied to the figure of Judas? .. Since the greek didymos means 'twin', it is clear that the two attributes, ie Thomas and Didymus, have the same meaning, even for the above said. That's as reported by Wikipedia:

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Thomas the Apostle, also called Doubting Thomas or Didymus (meaning "Twin") was one of the Twelve Apostles of Jesus. He is best known for disbelieving Jesus' resurrection when first told of it, then proclaiming "My Lord and my God" on seeing Jesus in John 20:28. He was perhaps the only Apostle who went outside the Roman Empire to preach the Gospel. He is also believed to have crossed the largest area, which includes the Persian Empire and India.[5]
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As Stephen J. Patterson observes in his notes on the translation of GThom in The Complete Gospels, of these various term the only genuine name seems to be Judas: "..Didymos and Thomas are the Greek and Semitic words for Twin, respectively, although Thomas does function as a given name elsewhere.."
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In the Gospel of John it is found: «Thomas, who was also called the Didymus, said to his fellow disciples, "Let us also go, in order to die with him"..» (ie, in practice, 'Twin said Twin', sic!). This also shows us what had been the initial fideistic target toward which the Christian missionaries were addressed! ..

It is all too clear that there was a disconcerting intent on the part by the 'holy' counterfeiters of the origins to hide the circumstance that Judas Thomas was a twin, because he was the twin brother of Jesus and such a thing did 'jump' the absurd hoax concerning the alleged 'physics' virginity of the Virgin Mary.

Finally, to more comfort for this inescapable historical truth, we have the testimony of the Roll of Safed, which speaks openly of the two TWINS Yeshay and Judas, having been Yeshay the REAL name of Jesus of Nazareth.

In the Acts of Thomas, the author clearly states that Jesus(*) resemble to Thomas as two drops of water! ... Do you have still doubts? ..


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(*) - In this context, Jesus is made to appear as 'spirit' rather than as a being of flesh and blood! .. All geared to make not understand that in reality both brothers, as well as twins, were together in the same places described in Acts of Thomas, namely that they traveled together to the East, together also to the 'Elect', ie Mary Salomè of Magdala, and their second son John, known also as' Marcus' (founder of the sect of 'Marcosiani'), alleged author of the canonic 4th gospel (for references to the 'Elect' and 'Marcus' in Babylon, ie in the East, see the first letter of Peter, attribuited in pseudo-epigraphic way to Simon Peter)

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Greetings Littlejohn!

Just a friendly reminder,
I know how busy you are, and how difficult it must be for you to keep track of so many things.

Perhaps it slipped your memory that we were engaged in a discussion some time back?
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I am still waiting for your reply to the last thread that you started.
Remember? The one where you were to answer my questions about your assertions regarding the date and details of 'Jesus' BIRTH?
You'll have your answer, I assure it to you! ... The post is ready from 4 days ago. I just have to translate it. A little patience....

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believe the record shows that I have been -very- patient......
Your last reply addressed to me, and to those questions that I posed in that thread, was made on 10/23/10......
Very well!.. And, above all, endeavor you to understand what I mean say....

on 11/5/10
As you have -still- not submitted that reply, and you have not 'said',
it is difficult for me- to understand what you mean to say.

It is now 11/14/10 and I am -still- patiently waiting for your reply to Answers to Questions by Sheshbazzar .

If your post was "ready from 4 days ago" on 11/5/10, that would indicate that it was 'ready' on 11/1/10

It is to be noted that you somehow manage to 'translate' and place other posts in these forums almost daily.

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Greetings Littlejohn!

Just a friendly reminder,
I know how busy you are, and how difficult it must be for you to keep track of so many things.

Perhaps it slipped your memory that we were engaged in a discussion some time back?
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You'll have your answer, I assure it to you! ... The post is ready from 4 days ago. I just have to translate it. A little patience....

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I promised you that you will have your answer and you'll get . I'm a little 'back with translations (I have about 60 messages that I have not again translated! ..) As soon as I'll try to do it ...

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As you have -still- not submitted that reply, and you have not 'said',
it is difficult for me- to understand what you mean to say.

It is now 11/14/10 and I am -still- patiently waiting for your reply to Answers to Questions by Sheshbazzar .

If your post was "ready from 4 days ago" on 11/5/10, that would indicate that it was 'ready' on 11/1/10

It is to be noted that you somehow manage to 'translate' and place other posts in these forums almost daily.

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"..it is difficult for me- to understand what you mean to say..."

But I have not yet figured out if you can not 'decipher' my English syntax, or you can not 'digest' what I expose inasmuch, of course, you do not have all the informations I have available in order to make a more deep evaluation ... Let me know about this ..


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I have had no trouble at all reading or understanding any of your previous posts,
I have no trouble deciphering your English syntax.
I understand what you have written very well.

YOU wrote;
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Very well! And, above all, endeavor you to understand what I mean say....
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"..it is difficult for me- to understand what you mean to say..."

But I have not yet figured out if you can not 'decipher' my English syntax, or you can not 'digest' what I expose inasmuch, of course, you do not have all the informations I have available in order to make a more deep evaluation ... Let me know about this ..

Greetings

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But I cannot be expected to be able to 'understand what you mean to say...'
In some -future- post, when you have not yet got around to saying it.

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