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dongiovanni1976x · 07-09-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Skeptic

Thanks for your comments. For you this is not a battleground, and that is fine, but for some people this is a battleground. Many people who visit various religious debate forums, some who make posts, and some who only read posts, accept or reject Christainity as a result of being at the forums.

Perhaps I should keep that in mind and be more vigilante of oppurtunities to turn the tide in favor of secular humanism. This forum can serve multiple purposes and I enjoy learning and persuading just like the next guy.

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Originally Posted by Mace Sin

Some Christians see it as an obligated duty to save us. Many posters at IIDB forget that they believe we're doing the right thing--just as we are. And time may prove us both wrong.

Is the "they" in your second sentence a reference to Christian posters or IIDB posters collectively? I am confused. I completely understand you initial point as to why Christians may come to this site...Just need a clarification on the pronoun(s). Thx

Mace · 07-09-2006, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dongiovanni1976x

Is the "they" in your second sentence a reference to Christian posters or IIDB posters collectively? I am confused. I completely understand you initial point as to why Christians may come to this site...Just need a clarification on the pronoun(s). Thx

Oops. I meant that they think they're doing the right thing. I'll edit it real quick if I can. Sorry about that.

Mace · 07-09-2006, 11:42 AM

My intentions are tolerance, not destruction or slander against any who hold even a minor opposing view.

Rick Sumner · 07-09-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Haran

The incredible irony of the whole thing is that Johnny is so blinded by his bigotry that he cannot see that he is exactly like the fundamentalists he derides.

This thread has no business being in BC&H, but moderators here have been strangely silent lately. Perhaps they agree with Johnny?

Exactly.

Regards,
Rick Sumner

Johnny Skeptic · 07-09-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mace Sin

My intentions are tolerance, not destruction or slander against any who hold even a minor opposing view.

Where have you read any destruction or slander in this thread? Is it your position that fundamentalist Christians are tolerant of people who don't want them to legistlate their religous views?

Haran · 07-09-2006, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Skeptic

How tolerant are you of Muslims?

This question about "tolerance" from a bigot who openly admits to being at war with and wanting to "destroy Christianity". :banghead:

Johnny Skeptic · 07-09-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Haran

Johnny should be banned for his excessive spamming of all boards with material so biased that few even want to read it, and it is because of his agenda of war against Christians. Johnny sitll has no clue that the only reason I have been so confrontational and rhetorical with him is because I (as I tend to do) will reflect the behavior of others so they can see what it is like. Apparently he doesn't like his own behavior...

This forum used to be much more conducive to discussion, but as of late (due to the likes of such as Johnny and Sauron and some others), the quality of discussions here has degraded immensely.

Another forum was created quite a while back because this is such an unfriendly place to rationally discuss ideas. However, it just couldn't pull the people and the founder left (although for good reasons).

I certainly hope the moderators will step up and stop irrelevant militant, warrier atheist (and theist) posts and do their job to make this a better, more rational place for discussions.

Confrontational? My word, Haran started a thread at the GRD forum that is titled 'Atheist dog-pile', and he is one of the most confrontional Christians that I have ever come across. Just ask any skeptic at the GRD forum.

If the Bible is anything, it is confrontational. The Bible started this war, not skeptics.

Johnny Skeptic · 07-09-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Haran

This question about "tolerance" from a bigot who openly admits to being at war with and wanting to "destroy Christianity".

Alright, Haran, how about a one on one moderated debate? I believe that you are a chicken, and a quite rude chicken at that. I did not say "Christianity". I said "fundamentalist Christianity". There is a big difference, or haven't you noticed?

Toto · 07-09-2006, 12:42 PM

Perhaps the moderators are in a different time zone and/or got up late, and/or hit a board glitch when they tried to log on just now, and/or do not like to take precipitous actions.

Hold on while I call for reinforcements.

But I should point out that 1) not all self-described Christians think that those who disagree with them are going to hell 2) the aim of the founder of the Jesus Seminar, a Christian, was also to combat fundamentalist Christianity 3) We have had Christian posters who clearly had an apologetic motive, to defend their faith, and they have mostly left in disappointment, and 4) the aims of this forum are spelled out pretty clearly. Whatever your ultimate motivation, the forum is meant for the discussion of issues relating to the Bible, not for preaching or conversion.

Toto · 07-09-2006, 12:47 PM

I seem to be the only BCH mod on at the moment, and the board is behaving strangely (technically, that it.)

This thread is entirely too involved in personalities for BCH. I'm sending it down to Elsewhere.

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07-09-2006, 11:42 AM	#23
Mace Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Blah. Posts: 6,559	My intentions are tolerance, not destruction or slander against any who hold even a minor opposing view.

07-09-2006, 12:42 PM	#29
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Perhaps the moderators are in a different time zone and/or got up late, and/or hit a board glitch when they tried to log on just now, and/or do not like to take precipitous actions. Hold on while I call for reinforcements. But I should point out that 1) not all self-described Christians think that those who disagree with them are going to hell 2) the aim of the founder of the Jesus Seminar, a Christian, was also to combat fundamentalist Christianity 3) We have had Christian posters who clearly had an apologetic motive, to defend their faith, and they have mostly left in disappointment, and 4) the aims of this forum are spelled out pretty clearly. Whatever your ultimate motivation, the forum is meant for the discussion of issues relating to the Bible, not for preaching or conversion.

07-09-2006, 12:47 PM	#30
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	I seem to be the only BCH mod on at the moment, and the board is behaving strangely (technically, that it.) This thread is entirely too involved in personalities for BCH. I'm sending it down to Elsewhere.

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