Jadea

OK I see where your going, now that one is out of the way.

I am a R.C. and from what I know of other religions, I still am convinced that it is the one true religion. If someone disagrees with me I really don't care, as it is the religion for me and mine.
What are your thoughts on R.C. ?

Chili

Good for you! It is a good religion and the only one for me in Christendom. I usually defend it here but more from the philosophical perspective and that is not always easy to follow.

Chili

But that is still true Jadea. For example here, Joseph came to God as a child when he returned to Bethlehem to give an account of himself . . . which was a journey for him as it must be for each one of us. Usually I am able to tie the pieces together in a deep structure theme instead of disagreeing with the Catholic teachings.

yummyfur

I guess Josephus was a white supremacist

Antiquities of the Jews - Book I Chapter 1

"This man was called Adam, which in the Hebrew tongue signifies one that is red, because he was formed out of red earth, compounded together; for of that kind is virgin and true earth. God also presented the living creatures, when he had made them, according to their kinds, both male and female, to Adam, who gave them those names by which they are still called."

LeeBuhrul

2 pages of posts so far and ONE addressed the original post directly. NOT one from a christian poster...

slippery aren't we...

Diogenes the Cynic

I think Josephus got his Hebrew wrong.

Chili

Isn't that what the author had in mind?

yummyfur

What about Exodus 25:5
rams' skins dyed red(adam), porpoise skins, acacia wood,

Exodus 26:14
You shall make a covering for the tent of rams' skins dyed red(adam) and a covering of porpoise skins above.

Exodus 35:7
and rams' skins dyed red(adam), and porpoise skins, and acacia wood,

Exodus 35:23
Every man, who had in his possession blue and purple and scarlet material and fine linen and goats' hair and rams' skins dyed red(adam) and porpoise skins, brought them.

Proverbs 23:31
Do not look on the wine when it is red, When it sparkles in the cup, When it goes down smoothly;

Isaiah 1:18
"Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red(adam) like crimson, They will be like wool.

Nahum 2:3
The shields of his mighty men are colored red(adam), The warriors are dressed in scarlet, The chariots are enveloped in flashing steel When he is prepared to march, And the cypress spears are brandished.

Also from the same site you linked to, to prove your point.
http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/...ng&submit=Find

You will notice that the definition you linked to says that Adam the name, is derived from the word adam meaning red which is Stong's number 119.

The story Josephus gives makes sense in a mythological sense as well. In one of the Genesis stories Adam is formed out of dirt, red dirt would remind ancients of blood, and red earth is known(and known to the ancients) as often extremely fertile soil.

Chili

The implication here is that the man is not red or white but without color and that the color is added by religion to the man. This color is "red (adam)" in the unredeemd sinner and white "like wool" for the redeemed sinner. Same sin that once was a liability now becomes richess in haven = sin is needed to color our own heaven = fertile soil = the law that roused in me all kinds of evil desire (from Romans 7:8).

Diogenes the Cynic

Remember that written Hebrew does not have vowels. I think you're inserting a's when you should be inserting o's. I linked to the Hebrew Lexicon already. Did you read the definitions? Can you find me a Lexicon that defines "Adam" with an 'a' as "red?"

I think we need one of our Hebrew scholars to help us out her. Spin?Are you there?