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I wonder when the tradition of the exodus became widespread among Hebrew speakers. It appears in various prophetic works, but were those works indeed composed at the times a naive reader would assume, or were these later compositions attributed retroactively to an earlier author? Was there a tradition of exodus prior to the retreat of Assyria and the subsequent expansion of Egyptian influence into Palestine in the 7th century BCE?
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My understanding is that trip from Egypt to Canaan is about a two week journey.
Not exactly 40 years of wondering in the desert is it. To be sure, the term 40 always signifies "unspecified time"...as in it rained 40 days and 40 nights in the Noah story. Further there seems to be no archeological proof of the Israelites moving across the desert in mass formation. So either they moved quickly into Canaan or it never happened. |
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The whole baby in the bushel thing... That's Gilgamesh. They were telling that story about him by probably about 2,000 B.C. So either it happened twice, or the authors of Exodus ripped it off from the Babylonians.
Sounds to me like this fellow was actually Egyptian and they stuck that on there to make him not be so. After all, he's supposed to be a prince of Egypt, he has an Egyptian name, and he doesn't talk to the Israelites. Spong says that's cause he didn't speak the language. |
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I've seen speculation in a pop science book (written by a dendrochronologist) that the plagues, the pillar of smoke etc, are garbled folk memories of Santorini and its aftermath. The dates don't quite fit, but they are uncertain, so it's not out of the question that they are compatible.
Santorini was quite a big event - bigger than Krakatoa and Tambora, and would, I imagine, have had a considerable impact on the environment of the Middle East. I make no claim that this was the case, but it's an idea I take seriously. David B |
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That's, of course, assuming that Moses was a reasonably historical person. After all the historical and archaeological doubts that have been raised about the real achievements of Solomon, who could say anything reliable about Moses? |
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