aa5874

What you say is NOT logical.

The book of gMatthew IS FOUND PUBLISHED PUBLICLY with the claim that Jesus was the Child of a Holy Ghost. See Matthew 1.18

People of antiquity MUST have read the PUBLICLY PUBLISHED account of the birth of Jesus in gMatthew.

It is IRRELEVANT whether Jesus had ZERO or 12 twelve disciples.

There is NO indication in the Myth fables called Gospels that Jesus wanted a disciple from each tribe when it is claimed THREE of the twelve were brothers.

The Jesus character SOUNDS like Mythology.

Solo

The 'naming' of apostles (ouV kai apostolouV wnomasen) in 3:14 appears to have been an early gloss which was then removed from most manuscripts when the apostles were actually 'inventoried' by a later editor in 3:17-19.

Best,
Jiri

TedM

We agree, although it was FOUR. So, why did he choose twelve then?

Stringbean

Could it be Astrological Allegory? 12 signs in the Zodiac...:huh:

aa5874

There is NO available data to answer such a question. Jesus the Child of the Ghost did NOT chose a single disciple it was the INVENTOR of of the Holy Ghost story that made the claim.

Again, the Child of the Ghost chose NO-ONE.

You are so ENGULFED with your imagination that you think it is evidence of the past.

Please, read the story.

Jesus in the NT was the product of a Ghost and it was in the story the Ghost had 12 disciples.

aa5874

There is NO available data to answer such a question.

Jesus the Child of the Ghost did NOT chose a single disciple it was the INVENTOR of of the Holy Ghost story that made the claim.

Again, the Child of the Ghost chose NO-ONE.

You are so ENGULFED with your imagination that you think it is evidence of the past.

Please, read the story.

Jesus in the NT was the product of a Ghost and it was in the story the Ghost had 12 disciples.

Why did Romulus have one brother in Plutarch's "Romulus"?

TedM

ok, why did the inventor choose 12, but not one from each tribe?

judge

Even Josephus mentioned that the 12 signs of the Zodiac were set into the floor of the temple, and otehr have noted the similarity between the 12 tribes and ancient zodiacal signs.
Calendars were very important to ancient man in ways which might easily slip by us in our technological society.

Josephus also wrote...
"And for the twelve stones, whether we understand by them the months or whether we understand the like number of the signs of that circle which the Greeks call the zodiac, we shall not be mistaken in their meaning." Antiqities 3:8

So the twelve months or the twelve signs of the zodiac (much the same), predate the "twelve tribes", and may have given rise to that notion.

mountainman

It was an INSIDE invention job. The inventor may have been a man of Jewish descent. As others have already mentioned, the wise people who sqiggled lots of numbers on scrolls about the stars in the sky had already gathered them, from perhaps prehistoric times, from the twleve constellations of stars. It was common knowledge.

Toto

It is, in fact. There seems no way that he could have been sure of this. Some have tried to connect this to his alter ego in Acts, Saul, the name of a king from the tribe of Benjamin,

I was playing along with your question.

Because it wasn't an ideal. It's some idea you got into your head, with no basis in history.
I think there are theological or political implications.

It is a common feature of fiction to include realistic sounding details.