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MCalavera · 10-07-2011, 08:46 AM

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Jesus the Nazarene (Nazareinos).

You are using bad translations.

Yes, I have already told MCalavera that. But MCalavera is very enthusiastic about his arguments right now, so it hasn't had a chance to sink in.

I made the effort to address your post point by point revealing how many ad hoc you had to make. So no, it's not simply a matter of me being too enthusiastic to let it sink in. Without evidence, you arguments are just wrong.

jakejonesiv · 10-07-2011, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MCalavera

The translations are good. Nazarene means from Nazareth.

No it doesn't. Nazarene is a sect. You would be better served to be asking the question of why Jesus was said to be a Nazarene.

Jake

dog-on · 10-07-2011, 08:52 AM

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Jesus the Nazarene (Nazareinos).

as opposed to 1:9

that Jesus came from Nazareth (Nazara).

You are using bad translations.

The translations are good. Nazarene means from Nazareth.

Thank you for confirming my point.

Now let's see your answer to my question for once. Or are you going to just keep dodging?:notworthy:

'Nuh uh' is not really addressing the response, other than to show that you have not studied the issue.

Take some time and investigate the specifics regarding the two words that I mentioned above.

dog-on · 10-07-2011, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dog-on

Jesus the Nazarene (Nazareinos).

You are using bad translations.

Yes, I have already told MCalavera that. But MCalavera is very enthusiastic about his arguments right now, so it hasn't had a chance to sink in.

Indeed.

jakejonesiv · 10-07-2011, 09:03 AM

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I would suggest that "Nazareth" was inserted into the text of Mark 1:9. It was perhaps a marginal gloss that was copied into the text by a careless scribe. And while this isn't in any way a "mythicist" answer, it is consistent with mythicism.

So in other words, you implicitly admit it's just speculations, nothing more.

As expected from the mythicists.

Hi MCalavera,

Flame on bro. You and AA are mirror images. :wave:

Jake

MCalavera · 10-07-2011, 09:07 AM

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The translations are good. Nazarene means from Nazareth.

No it doesn't. Nazarene is a sect. You would be better served to be asking the question of why Jesus was said to be a Nazarene.

Jake

Nope, no evidence of Jesus being of the Nazarene sect in Mark.

It's Jesus of Nazareth of Galilee. Period.

MCalavera · 10-07-2011, 09:09 AM

Still waiting for the mythicist explanation for Jesus being from Nazareth.

So if not Mark who made it up, why did Matthew and Luke do so ... and why do so when they went out of their way to associate the Messiah with Bethlehem anyway?

Toto · 10-07-2011, 09:24 AM

MCalavera:

There is a search function for this forum. Look for Nazareth in thread titles, and you will find:

http://www.freeratio.org/showthread....light=nazareth

Read through that monstronsity, and pay attention to the posts from spin, who will tell you that he is not a mythicist.

Then get back to us.

Take care.

MCalavera · 10-07-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Toto

MCalavera:

There is a search function for this forum. Look for Nazareth in thread titles, and you will find:

http://www.freeratio.org/showthread....light=nazareth

Read through that monstronsity, and pay attention to the posts from spin, who will tell you that he is not a mythicist.

Then get back to us.

Take care.

We have a thread for discussion right here.

spin? What's so special about him?:huh:

DCHindley · 10-07-2011, 09:44 AM

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MCalavera:

There is a search function for this forum. Look for Nazareth in thread titles, and you will find:

http://www.freeratio.org/showthread....light=nazareth

Read through that monstronsity, and pay attention to the posts from spin, who will tell you that he is not a mythicist.

Then get back to us.

Take care.

We have a thread for discussion right here.

spin? What's so special about him?:huh:

There are about a dozen folks who consistently posted meaty, well thought-out posts, over the past several years. Spin is one of them. He has investigated and thought out every position he takes, so is not shooting from the hip like many here do.

He also has little patience with those who so shoot. He hasn't been very active here recently, directing his satirical wit towards even crazier crazies than we have here, on other rationalist/sceptic forums, having already vanquished in his own beady mind those crazies who reside here. :devil:

DCH

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10-07-2011, 09:09 AM	#587
MCalavera Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Posts: 314	Still waiting for the mythicist explanation for Jesus being from Nazareth. So if not Mark who made it up, why did Matthew and Luke do so ... and why do so when they went out of their way to associate the Messiah with Bethlehem anyway?

10-07-2011, 09:24 AM	#588
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	MCalavera: There is a search function for this forum. Look for Nazareth in thread titles, and you will find: http://www.freeratio.org/showthread....light=nazareth Read through that monstronsity, and pay attention to the posts from spin, who will tell you that he is not a mythicist. Then get back to us. Take care.

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