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Sometimes you have a word in Arabic that has a double stress; for example, Saddam, where the letter "d" is stressed hard and the speaker lingers over the sound for a split second longer. In such circumstances, there is a diacritical mark over that letter. The name of the diacritical mark is "shadda", meaning "strong" or "strengthen", as an indicator to the reader of how to pronounce it. Is the "breast" connection established, or speculative? Is it unique to Hebrew? |
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I'm not up with the relationship between modern Arabic and ancient Hebrew, but I'd guess that the "d" you're referring to in Saddam, being the strong one and not the normal "d", may not have any relation with the Hebrew DALET. The usual words for "strong" in Hebrew are (Z ("az") and XZQ ("chazaq"). Magdlyn mentioned a source he looked at which finds "mountain" behind $DYYN found in the Deir Alla inscription and that certainly is possible. Quote:
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Shaddah (stress) isn't connected with any particular letter. Other examples: 1. the name Omar Khayyam, the shaddah is on the letter 'y'. Khayyaam is a particular form of the root kh-y-m, and indicates a profession; in this case, tent-maker; 2. the city name Amman, capital of Jordan, the shaddah is on the 'm'. 3. the name Haddad, is from the root h-d-d, meaning 'iron', and the particular form that this name takes indicates a profession; in other words, someone who works with iron, or a blacksmith. So shaddah is a grammar feature, not connected to any particular letter. It can even be placed on a vowel. All genitives of nationality (American, Israeli, Iraqi - amrikiiyy, isra'iilii, 'iraaqii) have a shadda on the final 'yaa. |
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