Faid

I'm not sure you caught the analogy, Elijah.

Not all smokers get lung cancer, but smoking is certainly related to lung cancer.

Not all the elderly get Atzheimer's, but Alzheimer's (or any form of elderly senility), is related to aging.

Like it or not, age is devastating to both our bodies and minds in most cases- and that's just in our "short" life span; imagine the ages mentioned in Genesis!

And, of course, you have another problem: As we age, our capacity to learn also diminishes. We may not all get senile, but we certainly become more rigid in our thought, and less able to process and evaluate new data. our accumulated knowledge from past experience makes up for that for awhile, but not for long.

Aging is NOT a good thing for the individual after a certain point, Elijah. There's no way around that. Now, you can claim that somehow, our superhuman bodies in the past could negate or repulse the forces of time, and that a 90- year old would look like a 20- or 30 year old back then... But that's just using one miracle to justify another miracle.

You will excuse me if I don't have much respect for this line of "reasoning".

Faid

Maybe you and dave can start a "Help, we're being repressed" group on Facebook.

Elijah

A single ability does not equate to intelligence. Mice can find cheese don't mean they are not dumb. There is always going to be exceptions to the rules, but always with good reason if you can figure it out.

Faid

Except that loss (or at least stagnation) of intelligence with old age after a certain point IS the rule, Elijah.

Elijah

It's not that I don't understand what you are trying to say. I just don't agree with it. We just see the body and aging differently. You see aging as aging, something real onto itself and I see it as the cumulation of effects brought on by our environment and our lifestyle.

The mental conditions aren't related to aging they just tend to happen when you're older after more time has passed. I know you're not going to get that, but who knows.

Sauron

Except that (1) problem solving intelligence and (2) three-D ability are two of the three skills that separate humans from other animals, especially previous hominids, the (3) being language.

Maybe you should spend, oh, six months reading about this material before you try to tell us that black is white, hmm?

Elijah

Nope not the rule, fairly common, but not a rule. If you don't use it, you lose it, is the rule I believe, barring injury or illness.

Elijah

Wow. Blown away, two separate skills. Thanks. Write that down. Squids have two skills. :Cheeky:

Sauron

1. Writing in crayon for your benefit:

they only live two years.

they have 2 of the 3 skills that distinguish humans from other animals.

They gotz skilz but aint old like U sed they wuld B.

Octos be in yer theory ignorin' it and doin their own thing.

2. They ain't squids.

Elijah

[QUOTE=Sauron;4597324]You sure they only live two years? Or is that just in captivity?