IamJoseph

Europe was never peacefull well before Christianity emerged. The first invasions by the Philistines, then the Greeks, then the Romans reveals this. Rome commited a Holocaust, and the new christianity played dumb blonde about it - focusing instead on hapless, rowdy money changers doing what they did for 2000 years before Christianity emerged. Later, on, when nations such as the Americas and then Australia was conquered - it was very brutal. The notion of love was antitheitised here.

Of course, this is the nature of mankind generally and historically, with very few exceptions, however the two religions which emerged in the last 2000 years can be singled out and marked as the greatest violators of human life and Gdliness possible. Islam destroyed millions in India, and both these belief systems are bent on destruction of all who do not subscribe to their beliefs, and also the destruction of each other - unique traits of two religions, perpetrated via the doctrine the majestic laws of the Hebrew are fullfiled away or said to be distorted and replaced. That's rich! :banghead:

IamJoseph

How ridiculous is it that you even ask anyone to prove this. There are pages and pages in the Hebrew bible listing the ID, treatment, cure and quarantine of chronic, malignant, contagious and infecticious deseases. You cannot discuss or debate such a known writings if you don't know such basic passages - this is the first recording of Medinine, a faculty of science, forever seperating it from occultism. Before the Hebrew, the victims were seen as cursed.

storytime

I can imagine you living in Roman days, declaring how the Egyptians and Assyrians had committed a halocaust against the Hebrews and then telling Romans their religion was false because they along with Egyptians and Assyrians did not obey the laws of the Hebrew god. Then you would have pumped-up a few hundred of your militant fellows and marched right up in Caesars face with your god and your laws. :lol:

Sorry Joseph, but you do make things comical at times.

storytime

Sounds more like sexually transmitted diseases such as syphilis with all the burning, itching, boils, infected flesh, and infected brains. Once they went crazy from disease they ran around in the tombs of their cemetaries(NT), heard voices they said were demons and evil spirits. People feared them because they were crazed as dogs with rabies. The STD's brought upon them from sexual partners, many partners. No cures so they went mad and eventually died.

IamJoseph

Not so. A clear variance is made between natural emissions and chronic issues [syphilis] - the latter is listed as a 'running' [chronic] issue. The texts!

IamJoseph

I see a perishing of over a million by fire, sword and slaughter as the first of two Holocausts by Europe; the dumping of the name Palestine on Judea an inference of Genocide. How about you!

IamJoseph

That is precisely what occured, one small nation did stand up to Rome, and Rome lost the war for the right of belief. The Medevial church also lost the war of its heresy doctrine. Or have you not noticed! :wave:

storytime

And I see the perishing of over a million by fire, sword, and slaughter as a self-serving tale told by shepherds sitting around a camp fire telling tall tales.

You would have me believe that the Jews were innocent noble people who never instigated violence and war against Romans even before days of Jesus and his disciples came on the scene?

storytime

Excuse me...but Rome destroyed Jerusalem and won it's right to its own gods. For this the Jews hated the Romans. I don't think Jesus had anything to do with Roman anti-semitism.

Why do you think Judaism in those days and before was not built on heresay? I think it was an invention of Hebrews who wanted to make a name for themselves, and they began constructing their own religion and their own god(s). Why would other people not have a right to do the same darn thing? And when they did, why did the Jews think they had right to object to their gods and worship practices? Was it because the Jews were trying to force their religion and their god on other people who did not want any part of Yahweh or Jewish tradition?

You complain alot Joseph but fail to look at the actual situation.

IamJoseph

My understanding is the winner must also be alive and still standing. Otherwise, the nation which went to war over the right to freedom of belief - won!

Your right JC did not have anything to do with confronting Rome!

My understanding is the Hebrew were born and incepted in one specific land, and that they have never invaded anyone else's lands in all their 4000 year history. That's a unique position to have - specially when embedded adjacent to two religions representing its antithesis. Give Ceasar what is Ceasar's - this does not include what belongs to the Hebrews - they put up the lone defense for it and Mighty Rome - and her deites are no more. :wave: