jackrabbit

Except for a couple of very short posts, I haven't understood a single thing he's said in this entire thread.

jim_w

Just in this thread? ;-P

Imnotspecial

[QUOTE=Reena]I am still trying to figure out what I believe about abortion. It is a tough point for me because I don't know how to define a human being. Killing people should always be wrong unless it's self defense or similar reason. But how to define human?

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I understand your struggle with this question. Basically induced abortion is not natural and we shrink from this idea. Since this is not an abortion thread I will make this as short as I can.

Question: Is all life sacred or just human life? And then why just human life?

Considering tsunamis, wars and spontaneous abortions (one in four pregnancies is ending that way) I think abortion can be weighed against other considerations.

The good thing is that in our society we can make this choice and are not forced one way or the other (like China for example)

I hope this helps.

jackrabbit

For now, anyway. Many of us in the US fear what may happen the next time the topic comes up in the supreme court, now that Alito is present.

Imnotspecial

I don't think you need to be too afraid.
There is always Canada next door and we can use the business.:devil1:

Seriously I believe that reason will win out. To outlaw abortion is just not feasable anymore.

Spitfire

I don't see the direct connection between the issue of papal infallibility and the Inquisition or the passion of Joan of Arc. In fact, I think a lot of the evil done in both of these cases would have been avoided if there had been more direct involvement from the popes at those times. Also, as a Catholic, I don't believe that the people who burned Joan of Arc got away with anything.

The pope is not free to infallibly declare whatever he wants. It must be in alignment with what the Church has always taught. His role is to provide rulings when some dispute arises regarding the Church's official position, not to make anything new up. Outside of that, even popes make mistakes, of course. Even the pope has to go to confession.

Spitfire

I don't think I will ever understand why this concept baffles as many people as it does. Even if people disagree, they could at least accept it for what it is, that Catholics oppose what they honestly believe to be murder of human life, rather than making it out to be some kind of hysteria or bizarre plot to enslave woman-kind (who was hysterical here again?)

Spitfire

My apologies if you didn't mean that literally, but some of the things you say are starting to scare me sometimes.

Proxima Centauri

How can you respect that church which is responsible for the
Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal?

Chili

. . . and, of course, the Church represents the mind of Christ on earth in the here and now and not the God of the ancients.