JoeWallack

JW:
It took 3 days/3 nights and rhetorical excess and this is all I get? You've been Disrespectful towards Mr. Doherty and said many not at all nice things about him. When I pointed this out you insisted on sticking to 4.4 and its Significance to Mr. Doherty's MJ Position. You are The One who characterizes 4.4 as central/major/main to Mr. Doherty's case for MJ. Yet when I press you for an explanation you can only give a link to a part of TJP.

I Am afraid I'm going to have to ask you HOW http://home.ca.inter.net/oblio/supp08.htm is central/major/main to Mr. Doherty's MJ Position. Considering how critical you've been of Mr. Doherty in General, all the way to Accusing him of Lying, and especially characterizing him of OVERSTATING conclusions I would expect your explanation here of HOW http://home.ca.inter.net/oblio/supp08.htm is central/major/main to Mr. Doherty's MJ Position to be unusually Clear. So clear that even all the Amateurs here can understand.

I'm especially interested in whether you know for starters what the "supp" from http://home.ca.inter.net/oblio/supp08.htm means.



JW:
Well there ya go again asking for something you don't like to give. Moderators, per the rules here, do I have to address Jeff as Jeffrey?

Jeff/Jeffrey, your bifurcation complaint has gotten tiring as you continuously pull it out like a hankerchief, avoid addressing what you should be addressing, and the only thing that needs to be cleaned is your snottiness.



Joseph

http://www.errancywiki.com/index.php/Main_Page

jakejonesiv

You have also asked to be called Dora, and we have your permission to call you Dora henceforth.

Jake Jones IV

S.C.Carlson

:rolling: :rolling: :rolling: But, technically, only when Jeffrey is wearing a dress.

jakejonesiv

Hi Andrew,

Nothing undeveloped about Phil 2:6. Christ had always been in the form of God.

Oh yes, quite obviously the Johannine community believed in the pre-existence of Jesus.

No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. John 3:13 NIV
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man [which is in heaven]. John 3:13 KJV.
kai oudeis anabebhken eis ton ouranon ei mh o ek tou ouranou katabas o uios tou anqrwpou o wn en tw ouranw


For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. John 6:38. NIV
For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.John 6:38.KJV.
oti katabebhka ek tou ouranou ouc ina poiw to qelhma to emon alla to qelhma tou pemyantos me

"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" John 8:58. NIV
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 8:58. KJV.
eipen autois o ihsous amhn amhn legw umin prin Abraam genesqai egw eimi

Ephesians? Sure. But Colossians too. But what about GMatthew? Can you provide the passages?

Jake Jones IV

jakejonesiv

I will depend on Jeffrey to tell us when he is not.

Jake Jones IV

Ted Hoffman

Alright, we need some rules here. Either you are substituted or you are not. We cant have two people posting junk simultaneously to ingratiate themselves with Jeffrey. I mean, once you have made way for way for Totti or Del Piero, you stay at the bench and cool off. You cant come back to the pitch to tackle the striker of the other team.
Seriously though, when you get tired of pouring cloying adulation at Jeffrey's feet, post something substantive rather than the predictable insults or the void back-patting blather. In any case, history has shown that real heroes get nauseated by the cloying adulation of little people, so this pompous elevation of a mortal to worship status may just incense the mortal.
Unless, of course, he needs the approval of little people to boost his self-image.

jgibson000

Seems to me I only spoke about his "scholarship" and the quality of his arguments, not his person. There's nothing in what I wrote that even comes close to your recent remarks about me or Jakes's insinuation that I am a transvestite.

Actually, as this shows

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallack I'll even repeat the central/major/main Question I have for you Jeff: Looking through TJP I Am puzzled as to Where Mr. Doherty indicates that 4.4 is central/major/main to Mr. Doherty's case for MJ: So Where is it Jeff?(emphasis mine)

all you asked me to do was to show where Earl indicates that Gal. 4:4 is important for his argument.

So why you are now chiding me for giving you what you asked me to giver is beyond me.

And please note that what I've actually been claiming all along in regards to Earl and Gal. 4:4 is that Earl has pointed to Gal. 4:4 as a major plank in his argument that Paul believed in an MJ and not an HJ. This is something that is quite a bit different from the claim about what I've been saying that you are attributing to me.

Leaving aside the matter, pointed out above, of how I've only been claiming that Earl's reading of Gal. 4:4 is a major plank in his argument about Paul and an MJ, and nothing more, "I'm afraid I'm going to ask you": Can you not read?

Is this what I've done? And even if it is, it seems to me the question is not whether my "complaint" about how you continually engage in bifurcation is or is not tiring (let alone to whom), but whether it's accurate.

And to my eyes, if anyone is avoiding anything here, it's you -- in how you have not answed the "complaint" nor admitted what is clearly the case, namely, that it's true.

Jeffrey Gibson

Bede

I'm afraid I've only been following the Ted/Jeffrey discussion so can't really comment on your first question. On Bible translations, I would avoid the KJV for any sort of scholarly purpose. The best version, I believe, is the RSV rather than the NIV or NASB.

Best wishes

James

Ted Hoffman

Carlson joked that you are only Dorothy when wearing a dress. You ignore that and instead accuse mythicists of insinuating that you are a transvestite?
Sheesh. Scotsmen wearr skirts - that doesnt make them transvestites. In Southeast Asia and the Pacific Islands, sarongs are worn by both men and women, in Greece, even Arabia, men wear some kinds of skirts: it does not make them transvestites.

Since, clearly, some people are tone deaf to artistic expressions, and probably never watch movies or read other interesting books, the expression "Buckle up Dorothy, ‘cos Kansas is going bye-bye" is used in The Matrix movie. Plus, Dorothy is a commonly used expression. For example, we find "You bet! Buckle up, Dorothy...this is gonna be one bumpy ride!" here.

Now put your skirt back on and stop complaining.

Rick Sumner

Dorothy wore ruby slippers and a blue frock, not a skirt. The name under question is "Dora," which really isn't much of a common expression at all.

Regards,
Rick Sumner