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Old 07-18-2007, 09:59 AM   #11
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I did not say that Creation Theory is not supernatural origin. I admit that Creation Theory is supernatural theory of origin of both universe, of life, of species, and of everything.

But can you admit with all your heart that Evolution Theory is an origin theory? And therefore, a fable theory?
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:29 AM   #12
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The unreality in un-natural science is ISOLATION, the real/true/fact thing in science is not CREATIONISM.

Wow, that was easy.

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I did not say that Creation Theory is not supernatural origin. I admit that Creation Theory is supernatural theory of origin of both universe, of life, of species, and of everything.

But can you admit with all your heart that Evolution Theory is an origin theory? And therefore, a fable theory?
You seem to not understand most of what you speak of.

Yes, the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is a theory of the origin of species, as in how all the varying species arose, and are arising, from those before them. How all the various life forms came from those that existed before them.

Perhaps you just don't have a complete understanding of the English language.

Your entire point seems hung up on the word "Evolution". Which in turn seems based on your erroneous definition of that word.

What you describe as "interrelation" is what the scientific and, indeed, the rest of the world defines as evolution. Where you got this term 'interrelation' is beyond me and, apparently, most everyone else.

Webster's defines "interrelation" as:
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Main Entry: in·ter·re·late
Pronunciation: "in-t&(r)-ri-'lAt
Function: verb
transitive verb : to bring into mutual relation
intransitive verb : to have mutual relationship
Sort of exactly what it would appear to mean. Please note it does not mention nor even imply anything about change. It does not mention nor even imply anything about origin.

So, perhaps you don't understand English. Like I said, you seem to have some irrational hang up about the term 'evolution'.

Think about it for a second, which is more likely, that the entirety of science, literally millions of people who study, teach and practice science plus the millions more who use science in their daily lives either as a part of their work or simply as an interest, are correct about their definition of the term 'evolution'

OR

you, one person in the middle of asia, most likely not native speaker of the language, is correct in your definition of the term 'evolution'.

It may come as a surprise to you, but language is something for which the argument from popularity is valid. If the overwhelming portion of the population have consensus on the definition of a term, that's its definition. And if you want to communicate, you had best accept that definition. Of course, if you don't care if you communicate, well, then, do your thing. But don't be too surprised if the rest of us ignore you, as I am going to do.

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Old 07-18-2007, 11:42 AM   #13
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I think that Evolution Theory proponents are the one who don't really understand EVOLUTION!

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In conclusion, Evolution Theory proponents themselves don't understand their own theory!
And then there are those who do not understand reality.

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You seem to not understand most of what you speak of.

Yes, the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is a theory of the origin of species, as in how all the varying species arose, and are arising, from those before them. How all the various life forms came from those that existed before them.

Perhaps you just don't have a complete understanding of the English language.

Your entire point seems hung up on the word "Evolution". Which in turn seems based on your erroneous definition of that word.
Indeed ... it appears that samurai's understanding of the Theory of Evolution consists, almost exclusively, of Creationist "buzzwords" and, "My Pa ain't no dirty, stinking ol' monkey" thinking.
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So, perhaps you don't understand English.
At what point would you say that a person understands English?


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How can proponents of the theory of Evolution not understand their own theory? They're the ones who came up with the thing, after all. :huh:
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I understand you well. We had the same thinking/mind.

What we observed and are observing in nature is not "origin", that is, evolution but simply changes, that is interrelation.

That is why I am saying that Evoluton Theory proponents are the one who don't/didn't understand this theory of evolution (= theory of origin of species) at all!
When Darwin said, "the origin of species," he meant the cause (i.e., origin) of speciation. He was talking about the origins for the diversity of life, not of life itself.

You're the one who just doesn't get it, Sam.
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But can you admit with all your heart that Evolution Theory is an origin theory? And therefore, a fable theory?
Why would I admit something that isn't true?

THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION IS NOT A THEORY OF THE ORIGIN OF LIFE ON EARTH.

Any more than general relativity explains where mass comes from.
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How can proponents of the theory of Evolution not understand their own theory? They're the ones who came up with the thing, after all. :huh:
Didn't you read the OP? They're all deceivers!
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