Mech Bliss

We already know this is false, and ignoring facts like these does not make your manufactured story, for which you have provided zero evidence, any more valid. All you've done by repeating the same claims over and over again in the face of facts that disprove it is to make your position more worthy of ridicule.

Barefoot Bree

May I add one two?

(5) documenting just HOW Noah's descendents could have recreated Egyptian culture in such perfect continuity of its past; language, writing, clothing, architecture, religion*, etc, when the entire civilisation (except the buildings) was washed away. What was their source material?

(6) * explaining why Noah's immediate descendents, after having just survived the absolutely clearest demonstration of their God's wrath and power imaginable, if not first hand then through the undoubted bone-chilling stories passed down from their elders who did, decided to turn their backs on said God, risk his wrath again, and revive the Egyptian pantheon instead.

Toto

Some posts have been split off here on the general nature of historical proof.

TonyN

Sorry friend but facts like the ones you pointed out and to which I viewed are not relevant. They are only relevant to today. The person who wrote that post was not around about 4,000 years ago so his rate of movement of the plates of TODAY do not prove the same rate of 4,000 years ago anymore than a person who drove a car a year ago averaging 90 miles per hour on the freeways but now the same person travels them at 55 miles per hour disproves that he drove them at 90 a year ago.

David B

Very tired today, but I have it on my agenda to get back to you on this tomorrow.

The (or at least a key is, though (it seems to me) to think of the consequences of very fast continental movement.

I'll let you think about that, and where I'm going for now.

I'm tired, I've had a few glasses of wine, and how to set about my forthcoming post is sitting simmering on the back burner, so to speak.

Take care

David B

Shanefield

The Egytians and Assyrians went thru Judah many times and wrote up tremendous details of taxation, battles, etc. but never mentioned Sol or Dave or any big temples --- just described desert poverty. The Romans and Persians wrote fantastic amounts of details about rebels in Palestine, but nothing about Chris or his followers (or the Greeks about Pete, etc.).

For perspective, you might quickly look thru my little
http://oldnnew.blogspot.com , tho most of you probably know that stuff already.

Dan Shanefield

Roller

Any evidence of these plates moving much faster?

David B

Of course there is!

If they hadn't, the biblical accounts couldn't even have any special pleading to defend them!

Believe in the bible, and that is pretty much how it had to have happened.

The only counter thesis I can come up with to make the bible and the geological/evolutionary/etc record to come up with, is that god deliberately set things up so that people with critical thinking skills would be led astray by the appearance of age that he deliberately created, so that he could have some sort of rationale for damning us.

And that would make god a real SOB, would it not?

But I'm open to other suggestions.

David B (does not think that the observations we make about the world are consistent with thousands of miles of continental drift happening in a couple of hundred years)

Roller

They are not.

I will, however, wait for TonyN's reply to substantiate his claim with some data. I'd like to see what would happen to plates moving at much greater speeds (especially accelerating and deaccelerating)

DISSIDENT AGGRESSOR

Noah is 500 years old at the end of Genesis 5, verse 32. This is when God supposedly tells him of the flood that is coming a hundred years down the road.

hmmmm, okay I'll buy that, sounds somewhat logical.

Noah has three sons, [providing he has already begot them when he is 500 yo.] who help him build the ark plus keep all the animals that have gathered.
Unless the animals packed their own lunch some how they had to be fed.

How many animals were there again? My rough guess would be 5 million...

Noah and his sons would also have to build some place to keep all these animals, like a zoo or something, to keep them alive, according to Genesis 6:20, until the big day that everyone and everything boards the ark according to Genesis 7:13-16.

Now the people all getting on the ark, on that very day, I can buy, but all those animals? [you do the math of how many per second it would take to get the animals on board the ark]
While the flood has already started? With everyone else in panic trying to get on board?

No. ah..

Genesis should start with "Once upon a time..." so that the Bible fits into it's proper literary genre...