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Old 10-06-2003, 07:19 AM   #21
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If worshipping machines would be necessarily unhuman, how about just humans more likely to worship? For example, instead of Adam and Eve, how about Frank and Bobbie Joe, two people, still human, but with stronger will. You know, more representative of real people. How many people here would've eaten the only fruit an all-powerful God forbid you to eat? You better believe if a conscious being made a woman out of one of my ribs, I'd worship it every chance I got.
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That doesn't make sense. If the angels were worshipping machines, how did 1/3 of them rebel?
There is actually no contradiction, you see there aren't any angels. 1/3 (rebellious angels) * 0 = 0 = 2/3 (machine worshipping) angels * 0. You see, the problem lies in our understanding of angels as actual beings. Once the reality of angels are nothing, the adjective before "angel" is therefore meaningless. <sarcasm> Silly atheist... don't you see the wisdom of God. God is not the author of confusion. </sarcasm>
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Old 10-06-2003, 12:08 PM   #23
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In Christianity, what is the point of worship? What exactly does it accomplish for God?
It doesn’t accomplish anything for God. On the other hand, it does help in forming a following of people obedient to their religious leaders. Remember, he who speaks for God is like God in authority over men.
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If worshipping machines would be necessarily unhuman, how about just humans more likely to worship? For example, instead of Adam and Eve, how about Frank and Bobbie Joe, two people, still human, but with stronger will. You know, more representative of real people. How many people here would've eaten the only fruit an all-powerful God forbid you to eat? You better believe if a conscious being made a woman out of one of my ribs, I'd worship it every chance I got.
You mean in all your life, you've never been inticed by something that was off limits? Usually, something that you can't have makes you want it that much more.
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You mean in all your life, you've never been inticed by something that was off limits? Usually, something that you can't have makes you want it that much more.
Are you hitting on me again?
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But Adam and Eve COULD'VE had the forbidden fruit. That they did is sufficient evidence of that.

I'll admit that an object's being forbidden adds inticement. However, it also discourages. In fact, the very rationale behind forbidding things is that the discouragement will outweigh the inticement.

Had the fruit been forbidden by a relatively powerless subject, I would probably pay no mind. However, in the case of Adam and Eve, it was by an omnipotent power. What fools! And we have to suffer for their stupidity? If only God had waited until me to make his first disobeyer. I would've at least made it worthwhile by waging war on the cosmic egomaniac.
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In Christianity, what is the point of worship? What exactly does it accomplish for God?
All the fundies I have known have never been able to provide a decent answer to this very good question.
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Old 10-06-2003, 03:15 PM   #28
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Worship is defined as reverence towards a divine being.
Only towards a divine being? Couldn't people behave in a worship-like manner towards the pope or their own country?
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In Christianity, what is the point of worship? What exactly does it accomplish for God?
Worship = voluntary acknowledgement of truth in poetic form, often set to music. Examples of truth that the worshipper typically acknowledges:
God's work in creation
God's work of redemption
God's sustaining power and goodness

What, friends, do you suppose is the value of man�s voluntary acknowledgement of truth?

(I want to give others a chance to respond first)

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But Adam and Eve COULD'VE had the forbidden fruit. That they did is sufficient evidence of that.

I'll admit that an object's being forbidden adds inticement. However, it also discourages. In fact, the very rationale behind forbidding things is that the discouragement will outweigh the inticement.

Had the fruit been forbidden by a relatively powerless subject, I would probably pay no mind. However, in the case of Adam and Eve, it was by an omnipotent power. What fools! And we have to suffer for their stupidity? If only God had waited until me to make his first disobeyer. I would've at least made it worthwhile by waging war on the cosmic egomaniac.
Well, Satan told Adam and Eve that by eating the fruit they would essentially become God. That puts the inticement aspect way over the discouraging aspect.

And you would have waged war against God? Satan and 1/3 of the angels already did that. It didn't turn out too well in their favor.
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