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Old 09-18-2011, 11:24 AM   #21
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Nothing circular about it. Re read it. If it don't make sense then I am not into playing typical christian word twisting games. Oh and for the record Washington never saw a cherry tree in his life! That story was concocted to make money just like the jesus story has robbed millions out of their hard earned cash. Amazing what a little myth will do for the wallet huh?
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Nothing circular about it. Re read it. If it don't make sense then I am not into playing typical christian word twisting games. Oh and for the record Washington never saw a cherry tree in his life! That story was concocted to make money just like the jesus story has robbed millions out of their hard earned cash. Amazing what a little myth will do for the wallet huh?
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"At death, people shall have the right to leave property to the Church"
The servants of Jesus knew how to fight for the church at Nicaea.

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The chinese whispers[1] game begins with the first player whispering a phrase or sentence to the next player. Each player successively whispers what that player believes he or she heard to the next. The last player announces the statement to the entire group. Errors typically accumulate in the retellings, so the statement announced by the last player differs significantly, and often amusingly, from the one uttered by the first. Some players also deliberately alter what is being said in order to guarantee a changed message by the end of it.

The game is often played by children as a party game or in the playground. It is often invoked as a metaphor for cumulative error, especially the inaccuracies as rumours or gossip spread,[2] or, more generally, for the unreliability of human recollection.
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Nothing circular about it. Re read it. If it don't make sense then I am not into playing typical christian word twisting games. Oh and for the record Washington never saw a cherry tree in his life! That story was concocted to make money just like the jesus story has robbed millions out of their hard earned cash. Amazing what a little myth will do for the wallet huh?
An imperial law of 321 CE

"At death, people shall have the right to leave property to the Church"
The servants of Jesus knew how to fight for the church at Nicaea.

Chinese Whispers

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The chinese whispers[1] game begins with the first player whispering a phrase or sentence to the next player. Each player successively whispers what that player believes he or she heard to the next. The last player announces the statement to the entire group. Errors typically accumulate in the retellings, so the statement announced by the last player differs significantly, and often amusingly, from the one uttered by the first. Some players also deliberately alter what is being said in order to guarantee a changed message by the end of it.

The game is often played by children as a party game or in the playground. It is often invoked as a metaphor for cumulative error, especially the inaccuracies as rumours or gossip spread,[2] or, more generally, for the unreliability of human recollection.
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At death, people shall have the right to leave property to the Church"
Good one. Only thing is the church today is not waiting till people die.
Appreciate the definition of the Chinese Whisper thing.
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...I don't get your point. The absence of evidence does not refute. So we have any evidence at all of a first century Christian movement? Maybe some questionable statements in Josephus? But does that mean that a first century Christian movement did not exist?

We have no evidence prior to the mid-19th Century that George Washington chopped down a cherry tree. Does that mean that George Washington didn't chop down a cherry tree?
Well based on your FLAWED logics, if absence of evidence does NOT refute then George Washington who was claimed to have cut down a cherry tree may have LIVED in the 1st century during the time of the Emperor Tiberius when Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea.

Philo, Josephus, Suetonius, Tacitus, Pliny the younger, Justin Martyr, Theophilus of Antioch, Athenagoras, Aristides and Arnobius did NOT write any thing about George Washington who is claimed to have cut down a cherry tree.

It is just HIGHLY illogical to assume George Washington is likely to have existed when NO one mentioned him.

You do not seem to understand that all things that are considered NON-EXISTING have NO evidence of existing.

Even in court trials, once evidence of guilt is ABSENT then the defendant WALKS.

Now, for some schooling on logics.

The phrase "Absence of evidence is not evidence of Absence" is NOT logically valid since ALL things considered ABSENT have absence of evidence.

The logically CORRECT phrase is "Absence of evidence is NOT ALWAYS evidence of Absence.
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